This episode of Cult of Psyche features heated discussions on morality, the nature of AI, and societal evolution.
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The episode begins with an enigmatic and poetic introduction by Trix, setting a mystical tone for the discussion 0:25. Shortly after, he welcomes participants and alludes to a rule of avoiding inappropriate language on the stream 3:34. The conversation shifts into chaotic exchanges involving anonymous guests debating topics such as the existence of ghosts and inappropriate online behavior 4:45. A prominent topic arose regarding the nature of water, sparking a debate over its properties, and shifted into a discussion about AI and its potential impact on industries like sex work 7:33. The discourse later delves into whether morality is universal or socially constructed, with various guests expressing differing views on the evolution of moral standards 9:32. Throughout, Trix attempts to mediate between heated debates and maintain order on the broadcast 17:05.
This episode suggests a continued pattern of exploring philosophical and societal questions, indicative of Psyche's aim to provoke thought rather than provide clear answers. The tolerance and near-encouragement of chaotic debate appears to serve as a reflection of the show's name, emphasizing the tumultuous exploration of consciousness. The episode also delves into the tension between tradition and modernity, as indicated by discussions on AI and evolving moral standards, which may represent the show's thematic thread of change and adaptation through time.
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Voices collide, the storm and the flame Laughter and chaos, it's part of the game Secrets unravel, the stage is alive In Psyche's arena, the strange will survive Who's awake? We're awake Who's afraid? Let it break From shadows to starlight, the truth will be shown
The Psyche awakens, you're never
be unexpected Strange and unusual step inside the flow the circus of shadows it's psyches show Terrible trolls in the dark take their stand, but angels are dancing torchlight in head
psyche's show terrible trolls in the dark take their stand the angels are dancing torchlight in hand let's start the show readings oh are we all up yeah hey what's up here we go uh oh well hi what a resplendent intro
great AI intro Thank you. I'll behave Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that. Asalaamu alaykum. I'll just You're the conch. Awesome. I mean so look can I just be no End slurs word. Yes. No N word, please. Let me just tell you these assholes Shaniqua's Tyrell's whatever
and there's this white, sorry, I'll just say this, they're flagging me, Psyche, to the point of where I've just got to make videos on Bitshoot and Rumble, but it's okay, it's a hobby, I'm getting back to work in the insurance world. I will not say slurs, there are good people of all groups, we love everybody, I'm dressed, my friend said I look like a camel shit,
and I said, well, hududu, that's the closest I'll come. I've been drinking for seven hours Even the Nazis are sick of me and I'm sick a lot of them too. My audience sucks. Not my audience is cool I want them to see this All right, what's the topic you're gonna love ghosts ghosts. This is reviler. He likes to debate
Reviled yeah, what's the topic though? Sorry. Well ghosts will name it We have a copy. Don't fuck you just join all is this some other anonymous assholes just fuck you oh my name is John I really don't care asshole if you're not showing your face he likes to debate I don't care he'll obey anything I don't care dude you can't give him then let him talk
come on it's not good you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
Sir you're some anonymous asshole that I've never met before and you're calling me
Why don't you get on camera asshole is this a stupid retard drama
Like a dead Okay, you literally just said it. You don't fuck Where they say that like 500 times
Hey, hey, don't do that asshole. I'm gonna kick you out forever. Okay, don't do it again. I didn't
Oh god, here we go
Sorry, yeah, I was pretty bad to you in the past I understand that look I just like if you're gonna call me names Just like have a point. That's all I ask. I just don't know who this guy
He doesn't really have a debate subject
Okay, I have a debate topic for you guys Go ahead and I'm gonna assign the side that you have to debate. So is water wet or does it just get other things wet? Sorry one more time. Sorry is water wet or does it just make other things wet?
Okay If there was one drop of water and then another drop is that two drops is equal on bigger
Yeah, how about let's debate on AI is AI creativity really creativity? I think We should talk about like these only fan models. I think AI is really I think that's the big problem
They're gonna take over the sect a sex injury Injury like like they're gonna take over like because there's like some like weird Half those only pancakes, they just, you just have a video streaming over and over and over looping. It's, it's revitalized red. There's a little name tag, it says revitalize red.
Hey brother, what's your name? Red? Or what's your name? Red. Yeah, it's just red, it's fine. Can I call you red? Do you mind if I call you red? No, go ahead dude. If you want to talk like a person, I'll talk to that person, bro, go ahead. And yeah, don't get psyching in trouble guys. He's, for degenerate, he's a nice guy. Go ahead. For degenerate. How's he degenerate? Go ahead.
Nothing. He just, he doesn't recycle as much as he should. That's why. Go ahead. What were you gonna ask? Yeah, but you just, you literally just made that claim. He's a degenerate. So therefore the plan would roll with you know fuck don't know you just made that claim. So you're just like unstable Okay, that's cool. I don't know who you are sir like I obviously a lot of my
I have a good topic. I have a good topic you guys
I'm going to give you something to talk about. Okay? Spurr out emotionally. You have no logical points. The girl's more
or is it universal, morality? I think it's universal and let me explain why. I think like, even if you're not religious or anything like that, you don't, you get your moral sort of parents, their parents get it from their parents, their parents get it, it comes from somewhere. And I think ultimately it comes down to, I'm interested to see what red things because he does have
Yeah, well, you're gonna spur get and chimp out anyway like a low IQ Tyrell anyway Even if you get your morals from your parents, that's great what makes Ahmed's more
the
You don't have to mute so if you get your morals from your parents Where do where do they get their morals from and then where do their parents get their morals from and then? Where do their parents get their morals from? That right, but that their parents Wait, wait a minute, so okay, so but I'm saying though are you like okay real quick dude like insults whatever bullshit aside
I understand the shit No, but really all that aside and hominems aside right because we're actually having a like a discord now So are you okay, but like So we obviously acknowledge that things like temperature, right, hot or cold, what we would perceive, we can test with thermometers, shit like that, cook food, freeze food. We acknowledge that, right? As dumb as this sounds, go with me. Like, we acknowledge that, right? That's objective.
Dude, I'm following the logic. Go ahead. Okay, all right. So whatever you think about freezing or burning shit, like, we can do it, like. Invariably we can do it now the problem with something like morals or religion which psyche doesn't like to offend people We won't get into that. I'm doing a parody Okay, so so so real quick though like so I guess when the girl's asking like are they universal
I guess we should she should have asked it's good question, but she should have asked like are they object are they objective? So I call you ty or crew Yeah, come he goes or call me T. Call me T. Y. Whatever you want. All right So now we're over the stupid petty bullshit trash in each other. So we're so we're really talking here. So
Fuck the chat if you guys don't rely on the chat school overall, but like fuck the chat. I'm on bitch
No, that's fine. So just so just real quick like do we Because I'm an ethical nihilist. I know that morals are man-made abstract ideas, like the idea of quote good art or God or something like that, that gets into other ship. But like, what about you? Like, do you think morals can be even in... Let me ask you this though, and it might be a stupid
question to you, sir. I'm asking you, by the way. Uh, like, do you think like a greater power I would just say mother nature. I grew I grew up Catholic learning just as they go all that shit But like I left yeah left that one was like 20, you know, I just I don't trust Abrahamic religions No offense to any of them. They're just none of them
Yeah, go ahead sir. I'm sorry to talk to you. No Matt. Yeah, like it sounds like without being dicks to each other We have a bit more in common even if you are anonymous faced right here. That's fine. Yeah, right here in disagreeing debate I love this shit. I live for this shit. Um, yeah, so yeah, but with morals, let's just stick on that dude And I don't mean to interrupt. Yeah And I think like morals like you get it
It's kind of taught to you, but it's kind of taught by like I would you agree like your parents? Yeah, but what makes them fucking right? I mean you break it down enough. It's gonna come from somewhere brother Okay, it has to come from somewhere. Okay, but but like that's it's not the somewhere like temperature though
Would you not and again the girl the vtuber cute cartoon person or psyche looking good by the way psyche or keeping the pounds
No, that's fine, ma'am But if you don't mind having a conversation with me, I'm down to half. No, I don't Yeah, she's definitely feel free to join in here and let the chat trash us all they want go in
Screw you chat, I'm kidding I think people should innately have morals and that they should hold themselves to a standard, but people don't always have that, but where do they get them from, you get them from their parent, and where do your parents get them from, they get them from somewhere, from parents and parents.
So that would be an argument for it's a social construct, morals. Is that a fallacy? Am I bringing up a fallacy right now? No, I'm pretty sure you
It's gonna come from so unless I'm bringing up a fallacy You let her like put out her whole point though like she was trying to like she's like in the middle It's letter complete the point and then go ahead
For it being a social construct And also the fact that morals kind they progress they evolve so slavery used to be okay, but as we evolved Well
For yourself Every single like skin color used to be in slavery, you know that right over the history of the world
Nope, I'm talking about there's all different kinds to say in general human service Human servitude is no longer. Okay, so morals evolved. Okay. Sorry just to get more Can I still have the conversation with him if you guys don't mind
go ahead it's fine hold on dude what crew crew crew I'm pretty drunk man here let's everybody I want to talk yeah I understand that hold on but for what she just said so here's the problem I have
we're having a conversation go so we got to listen to everybody real quickly and it's like he's panel but we're quick man so the problem the only problem I have is not what she said it's kind of with all of you and then myself I'll say it the meta analysis behind this right like we get like the behind right we gave the fucking temperature the temperature gauge right but the problem with her and you and everybody I want to and even him
there's no way like she said slavery is considered a moral now well yes if you were in the late 1700s no not so much right that the wolf family and everything right they made a lot of money on this trip the portuguese a lot of people right and then the trans-saharan slave trade and like ottoman empire all types of shit even we won't get into all the controversies of that but not
with standing there's nothing that made slavery actually right or wrong and i'm going to be an
I'm gonna say this. I think everybody here is I gotta be real careful. I don't want to get this guy flagged I think everybody here and myself is again Let's just say child acts right like per people will call it perverse But but but can I as an ethical nihilist say that it's wrong?
No, I can say it's damaging objectively to things I won't elaborate on to stick things were in someone small and hurt them like that. That's not good for the species. You know, that's that's not the same as like dogs or cats in breeding or something like that, even at their age or maturity, which probably is not good for them
genetically either. I don't know. Yeah, he, well, yes, with Aisha, according to Sahih,
we won't do that because do it if you follow me and I need to know what you're talking about yeah we're bringing that up and why do you think I'm dressed like this man I know all about I ordered this for a reason wait I'm just saying we can say that certain things are damaging we can say that certain things are productive in creation but we cannot say things are wrong
So I don't do real quick. Hold on man. I'm just I'm not trying to be rude, dude So again, we got the rudeness to be in fucking dickheads to each other now. We're having a real talk now
I mean, I agree, but I I'm not trying to say that on this guy's stream
Yeah, it's psyche. Why don't you just mute one person while the other one's talking
I just want to ask you guys, like temperature. we can measure centigrade, we can measure Fahrenheit, we can measure Celsius, right? Take a thermometer, feel it on your skin. What is the meta how we can measure morals?
What you will find that morals like religions and philosophical schemas for the most part are in our minds. Prove that they're not fucking abstract. I can answer that like So like if your parents felt like you know, they felt the heat of the Sun and it was like hot Or that maybe they even put their hand over a fire and it was hot
You know, if it was hot they probably wouldn't stick their fucking hand over it again So like your parents looked it and then your parents looked it and their parents looked it and their parents looked it So we're trying to say I don't know why you're trying to wear on what you You're wearing cuz I thought we were gonna actually have like a really real debate
I am I'm not no I don't believe in any man-made somatic religion or any religion period look dude. I just want to say this You're right about that
You're I was troll I did my own fucking stream on a banned website for like fucking six
No, I don't get many views at all
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I I'm gone. I like a lot of people talk, you know, I'm enjoying talking to you Listen, so if you fucking if your parents, yeah, your parents and they learn from there back to the fucking like Crow Magnans Whatever the fuck right? You're wearing something
Amazon it's it was a joke
It's a it's a it's a camel shit hat, but I can't I'm trying to not
I'm talking to you. that's ironic is your truck I'm trying to tell you dude I understand what you're saying that you're talking though sir about the physical implication of that your parents and everybody learned from fire hey man don't touch burning fire right fair enough I'm I put your answer to fire you don't fuck you're talking about they have to get their muscle somewhere do they not
ghosts and I do like ghosts overall and even if they think I'm a double agent, whatever the fuck, listen, ghost, here's the thing, man, you're correct on a physical level. All right. I don't think anybody's fucking denying that. The problem is this, we go fire can burn you real, real, real effects, right? But morals, that's completely subjective. Morals in the fucking 14th century and, you know, like middle ages, Spain are very different
than modern Spain, right?
What how do we gauge that because fire was always hot right fire is probably so I'm saying
Generations and generations I know but fire came to burn people from generations bro But what the fuck about abstract ideas that change with time? Those are not the same mate. Those are not the same as your parents burning with fire you great great great That real quick so we nice to get them like a like a point here. What's your words you? you just don't give a fuck
no, we're just animals and some species of animals are better no, but wait, this doesn't address that morals are subjective can you take a multi-meter and measure a moral and show me that Christianity or Islam or homosexuality or against homosexuality yeah, I can take anything you want and I can show you that Christian
Uh, like ethics against it. Yes. If it's bad, listen when I'm talking if it's morally bad because it's against I can literally show that and if it's morally good, I can literally show that because I have a Christian ethics against it. Okay, but you're yeah, but you're Christian ethics, which I used to believe you're talking about
He's my good friend and he is gay
You're saying it's a degenerate so that's that's you're saying but then you're saying we're animals and so there's no moral judgment there, right? So well, yeah, right Well, no, that's it. No, there is no judgment. No, fuck that. No, no, there is more. Okay. Look, fuck I was like you ever only whoever's doing what real quick before I fucking mute ghost you're saying this according to Christianity
You do realize without offending anybody as much as I came that Christianity and Islam that came later literally took from the Torah No, wait, man, dude, you do don't interrupt me broader
the
I don't like I okay. Thanks. Well, then I'll shut up for you Listen, man, is that where does your fucking Old Testament come from the Torah? It comes from the Pentateuch, okay? It comes from the Hebrew before the fucking Greek the first Septuagint from the third to first century BCE so that Jews in That fucking area could read Greek and Alexandria in Egypt, right? So your religion came after them Okay, Judaism was before that and again
I do not get a lot of friends defending Jews these days, trust me, especially my fucking past. He's very hot. but I'm what I'm just saying it's easy to blame them for everything right I'm with but all I'm saying man is you can't you can say that you have those Christian convictions
I'm actually saying things that are contradicting your simplistic world view that's cool so why did you go from the Torah and pervert the fucking Hebrew and turn like Almond's a Betulon Parthenos bro and really quickly how can you prove those Christian morals if you stole from Jews and they don't believe in your
I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't go just to address what I said man that's all even if christianity or judeism or islam or whatever it's like prove that it's right man you can't i understand you look i don't want to hear my song i want to hear you talk to man i don't think you're a totally dumb guy okay listen dude we were getting somewhere and then you go off this christian
shit i understand but not everybody's a fucking christian not everybody i'm dressed like a muslim as a fucking joke you think i'm a fan of them i got kicked off of youtube and everything the nazis hate me You know when you're in like AA, like alcohol, alcohol anomalous? I'm not a fan of that. And they say like, you know, they say that prayer, you know, they don't say God. You know, they say like, they believe in a higher power. Okay.
Do you believe in a higher power? no way hold on dude I will answer your question but I gotta tell you I gotta tell you man he said he's a nihilist he doesn't believe in anything dude I'm meeting this with all due respect to this other white man here this the fucking ghost guy listen dude you're fucking prevaricating and you're what you're doing is you're running around my
questions so I and I'll answer your question exactly my question is that you're correct about
about fire you're correct because there's a physical implication there but about morals that shits all in our heads can you prove that wrong using science or nature that's all any of you go ahead that's all I know listen let me
answer the question can I not answer yeah I was just gonna say that how about
Hey, don't the personal attack and don't use that word. Come on
I think I would take it to like, uh, I think I would take it to like, uh, And I had to be like this because well, I don't want to do it because he's gonna end the stream I think I would take it to like, uh,
You put you promised a panel go see if I can stop saying the end word
Like you don't end the shit man
I shouldn't have said a bad precedent for psyche you got up Well, fuck it. I want my 20 bucks then you guys don't feel like it goes
Ghost I just want to hear how morals are somehow real like what measurement can we use for them? Well, listen, I think I I think that's a good question. I think you should I think that is a good question. I think you should challenge it Um, you can base it on if your actions hurt other people Well, listen, I was yeah, you good point. That was a good point
No, because that's utilitarianism and that's not necessarily true because some people don't value helping
Listen, I think I think there's a great argument. I forget what it's called though. I want to Google it, but I'm fucking I'm not a debater and I'm retarded. Oh, I can't say that. I'm dumb dumb. I'm dumb dumb
This new guy here for proving once and for all ghosts cannot debate He's trying to bring up simple topics like nature versus nurture, but he's too dumb to even do that A ghost, you really, really suck at this. And I want to thank the guys for proving it. All right, now I'm going to have to talk to people. I'm going to have to shut up, and I'm going to say, oh, I'm going to bring up the beaters. He's got to learn somehow. Go ahead. Go ahead, DeBurne, so we're learning now.
You're pretty dumb, guys, and you've proven that today this morning, and I want to thank this fellow for letting everyone know it. Nature versus nurture. This is I mean this topic's been around since day one and you're too dumb
You're not listening to this gentleman, you're just waiting for your turn to talk you suck at this absolutely knows Everyone in chat knows it now. You stink now. Donate more money because you're too fucking stupid to have the conversation Yeah, I'm the damn one. I want you to go back once this is done
I You're hurt you sound like an idiot, dude, you really do
You're an idiot and thank you for proving that uh, everyone have a great morning Are you gonna go this quickly? Like, can you not stay? Okay, he's gone. Okay.
Okay, did anybody prove that somehow magically or not magically actually quite the inverse like Naturalistically that morals are real. That's all not again fire burns you don't touch fire a good idea, but I'm talking about Homosexuality is right or home homosexuality. Are you talking to me or the guy dude? Come on, man Like I'm not
He just acts like a baby
I'll get your baby, you're a good part of me, I'm just a baby. then well this then Goes goes you're just an asshole because you're not bright enough to engage No, if you if I'm the retard then
You're bipolar like you go from insulting people and acting like a spurg chimping out to like being a reasonable guy So which is it? Okay
I know it's so fucking horrible, like process language, right, process language, I know I'm just an insurance salesman by day, I'm just a retard, what do I know, right? You can't talk like those fucking idiots. I wouldn't say retard.
can you prove morals I don't care if I'm at our word yeah I think I can prove moral okay go ahead because Christianity I'm not a true religion either but millions of people believe it let this asshole is a low IQ asshole answer go ahead you gotta let me talk though
I'm fucking asking people bro if they can prove I was talking asshole this guy is a fucking asshole you should kick this guy else like
You're probably on SSI, like a typical mentally ill piece of shit.
Prove morals, prove morals, prove morals, prove morals, prove morals, do it, prove it, prove a muscle. Can I say something? Yeah, prove morals because they're a human concept, that's the difference between animals and humans. Precisely, they're not our hat, but he's gonna prove them, Psyche. Animals don't think about that. No, he's a genius, let him prove it, mate, he's a genius on let him prove it.
Well, we're in a perfect never be on me. I never once made that claim his answer is Christian You thought you had me but she didn't you fucking Ghost
I Want to talk to me bipolar, okay bipolar, okay? Okay, all right read, okay Such a fucking asshole he hates this quote You know what then dude and
is a fucking anonymous asshole that's not very high IQ. Dude that just came and skewered this Ensler, which he's white, he's a slow white one, I'll tell you that. He's definitely correct. He shouldn't say that. I will ask you one last time. You mean five fucking, not one where you can crack her? Can you, nigger, crack her. Hey, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
what the fuck, sorry, sorry, okay, bye. Okay, bye, you ruined it, sorry. Sorry, dude.
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