Psyche's livestream is disrupted by repeated attacks, including chat disruptions and being kicked from Discord servers, on the anniversary of his father's death.
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Psyche began his livestream with a tarot reading, but the stream was soon disrupted by issues with the live chat being disabled ▶ 2:12. He expressed frustration and sadness, stating that it was the anniversary of his father's death and that he was already having a tough time ▶ 2:42. Psyche mentioned that he had been kicked out of Discord servers and chats, and that some individuals were trying to harm his channel ▶ 3:15. He specifically called out someone named Alex, who had been a moderator but was removed from that position due to their actions ▶ 5:25. Throughout the stream, Psyche tried to maintain a positive attitude and connect with his audience, despite the challenges he was facing [3:44, 5:32, 7:03].
The episode appears to be centered around the theme of resilience in the face of adversity. Psyche seems to be struggling with the emotional weight of the attacks on his channel and the challenges of maintaining a positive online presence. The episode also touches on the idea of community and the importance of respecting others' boundaries and rules, as Psyche tries to navigate the complexities of his online relationships [6:10].
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In episode 440, Psyche hosts a morning livestream with casual discussions and a tarot reading for Instant Karma, also addressing interpersonal drama and community interactions.
This episode of the Cult of Psyche podcast features an open panel discussion where Psyche hosts casual conversations with chat participants, discusses community dynamics, and promotes membership benefits. The conversation touches on various interpersonal situations and personal topics.
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Psyche broadcasts from a casual Sunday setting after a Starbucks run, discussing online drama, panel disputes, and animal welfare while hosting recurring guests and tarot readings.
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Welcome to the night. The cards laid out for show. Stars shining so bright. Watch the secrets unfold. There's magic in her hands. Whisper what the future holds. Dance to the mystery.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, let the tarot move with the rhythm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Flow. Hearts in the balance. Every card and open door. Feel the romance in every arcane war. Destiny entwined as the moon begins to
soar. Dance to the mystery. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Slow. Let the tarot move to the rhythm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Flow.
Crystal visions and her gaze. Time can steal this moment. Life's uncertain dance we chase with love. Woen
potent dance to the mystery. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let the tarot move with the rhythm. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. The chat was disabled. It was I was trying I couldn't get on my own chat when I went to like go live chat. The live chat was disabled. he disabled it, you know, guys. I never did anything to him and he he he did give like probably 20 memberships to the chat and stuff like that and I appreciated that a lot. U I
appreciated his donations and I liked his sense of humor sometimes, but at a time it gets Yeah, my dad's anniversary the day my my dad passed away. I'm having a I had a rough time anyway and it's just like why am I getting attacked so much and it's like maybe it's the worst day of the year or something. Maybe it's the day I'm meant to like be attacked and and the worst things
supposed to happen, right? April 15th. I'm going I'm never going to forget April 15th. Why would you have to do that, Alex? Like why would you have to disable the chat and stuff like that? And I I came on with love today. I came on with love. I never did anything to anybody. I never said one one bad
thing. And I've been also kicked out of people's whole discords and um chats and and unmuted and unmoded for so much less for for just saying it for trying to make a joke and stuff like that. Never remember for doing harsh things like what you do. Now I have to delete all the streams tonight and stuff like that.
I'm not going to rage quit. I'm not going to crash out. I'm still I'm okay. Okay. I'm okay, guys. It's like too many attacks and then from people I know and love and stuff like that. And it's like why? Like why? Like why are you doing that to me? Like why would you do that? Like you know you you can
like cuss me out in email, cuss me out anything. You're trying to actively harm the channel. You're harming the cats. Look at the cats. Look at Lola. Lola, are you an innocent, Lola? Are you an innocent cat? You never did Lola do anything to anybody? Who's an innocent cat? Lola's an innocent cat. Did you do
anything to anybody ever? Are you an innocent cat? I want to do better for my cats. I want to give them better food. I want to make him happier. I want to get him more cat toys. You know, money's tight sometimes. Okay. You're going to
with me. You're going to disable my chat. I'm not going to take a break cuz now now now I'm fired up, right? No, he's still a mod. Okay, Alex, you're not a mod anymore. I'm sorry. Now, now the chat's disabled again. Is the chat disabled again, guys? Hold. If it's disabled again, I'm I'm starting over.
Yeah, it was fun, Alex. Okay, drop five memberships, but you're not right as a managing moderator.
Okay, not right as a managing moderator. Okay, you can be your member. You can still be a member. You can still talk in the chat. You can talk anytime you want. I don't know when I'm going to forgive you. Forgive you for what you did. If you did that and VA said you did and I believe you're manipulating Alex, but why, Alex? What did I do to you? That's what I really want to know. What did I
do to you? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sitting here trying to have a nice show, trying to talk and let everybody on. People are saying the N word. People are saying um porn bombs. People are People are and stuff like that. Just agree to the rules. It's not that
hard. I don't know. Maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. Maybe I'm not I'm not a good host anymore. Maybe I'm bad, right? It's okay, Alex. I appreciate the memberships and stuff like that, but you can still be in the chat and stuff like that. I can't have that on my show. You know, people
can report that and say, "I'm allowing this." You know, YouTube knows when I end the stream and delete it and stuff, they know I don't support that, right? Am I doing wrong? Am I doing the wrong thing, guys? Am I
wrong? Beta tells me I'm doing wrong and stuff like that, I'll listen to beta. I listen to beta. I listen to like instant karma. I listen to people that have been here. Thank you guys. Trying to do the best. Did I do something wrong to any of these people? Did I disrespect them in any way? I don't think I did. If I did, I'm sorry. You know, I'll apologize to you.
I'm sorry if I did something wrong and I offended you such such a way. You want to harm my channel, harm my cats. That's what you're doing. It's not that hard. It's like really easy. It's like here's here's my rules for my channel. I have some rules for my channel. Follow the rules, you'll be fine. You follow the rules. They're not
that hard rules. They're like, you know, don't threaten people. No racial slurs, no doxing, no slanderous accusations, no nudity. That's like the I remember them by by heart now, right? Maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. Maybe I'm I did it all wrong. Maybe maybe I just have too many people that
hate me because I'm gay because I'm, you know, they think I'm dirty. They they they're jealous. There's all these different reasons for it. I don't know. I don't know. I I was never disrespectful to anybody. I wasn't. Even the Discords I got I got banned for. I was maybe I was disrespectful in some of the discords with some of the language. It was out of
hurt and anger to get people's attention so I could talk to them and apologize. That's what all was about. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice got banned from Emma's server and then for because he was being talking too much and saying all this in Emma's server. He got banned from there. Then she brought him back and then she kicked me out and she won't bring me back. Okay. So, Beetleju
deserve forgiveness. I don't. Right. And then Beetlejuice can have me in his server kick me out because people are say, "Oh, I don't like Psyche. Psyche's weird. It's like you this that got I'm not maybe I'm weird. Maybe I'm maybe I'm a bad person. Okay, maybe I'm not doing things right. Maybe my maybe I have a weird channel. Maybe it's not conventional and stuff like that. But I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm
trying to do all the right things. I'm trying my best to just be attacked for no reason. It hurts. Only one that's been here for me is Beeta, Alisa, you know, and the people in my chat. Some people in my chat like Sassy, Scarlet Instant
Karma. Everyone else is like just with me and trying to with my channel. Why are you Why do you hate me, guys? It's like I I I've been here. I'll like promote your channel. Do what you want on my channel. Talk say whatever you want. Just follow these simple rules. There's a few simple rules. Just don't say these certain
words. Don't threaten people. Don't dox anybody. Don't don't porn bomb me, you know. Am I doing the wrong thing? Just tell me, guys. Yeah. And it's like it doesn't hurt them. It's ultimately they can say anything they want. They can say anything they want. And it's like only
it's music can be heard. They can go a They can laugh laugh at laugh at me crying now having to go to the store and and put cat food in my pocket from the store because I can't afford cat food anymore. Okay, that that's what you want me to do? Really? That's what you want me to do? I haven't had to do that for a
long time. But ultimately, that's what I have to do. If I everyone gets mad at me and turn me everyone's turn against me and stuff like that. I will s I The only thing I will steal is cat food. That's the only thing I would I would ever take from a store. Right. It's okay, Tracy. It's not your fault. You've been
here. Now my cats I can now I'm able to get my cat I'm I'm going to be able to go to that refrigerator in the store and get some like fresh ground mice and stuff like that and feed my cats. Well, that that that's what I'm most happy to be able to do, right? I'm not like, oh, I'm going to be a millionaire and driving a car. I'm not going to probably get a car, you know,
for a very long time. I'm like, I can go and get go to the pet store. I can go to the refrigerator and get some like freshly refrigerated food and give that to my cats. My cats can be like super wellfed. They're wellfed now. But, you know, maybe it is friskies, maybe it is meow mix, and maybe it's like the not the most expensive cat food. They're so
happy. Are you happy cats? You want to hurt my cats? Cuz watch what you're doing. You're not hurting me. You're hurting my cats. My cats will be well taken care of long after I am. Okay, I made I already made arrangements for my cats. Okay, that's Trixs right there. Are you happy, Trixs? You're
happy? You happy? I'm especially I'm at a vulnerable point right now, too. I just got monetized and it's like and I don't have that. I have 2,000 I don't have a million subscribers. I have 2,000, right? I'm I'm doing so well for me, but it's still like a vulnerable point because I'm just a little small fish that can, you know, anytime a shark can come up
and eat me up. And just to have like, oh, send in the sharks. If I have like 20 sharks sent after me, I'm a little I'm a little fish and stuff like that. I'm I only have so much power and strength to like keep running away from the sharks and stuff like that. You know, if if if you just want to hurt me so bad, you probably be will be able to. Okay. Why are you trying to do that?
Like, what did I do to you? Really, what did I do to you? Look at this innocent right here. He's an innocent. You wanna You want to with people's babies. This is my baby. Okay. You want to with people's babies? This is a little sweet, sweetheart guy. You go you go under my covers every morning. You if you don't go under my covers, you sleep on top of me. And then if you don't, Lila sleeps
on top of me. That could be the most vulnerable part of my year. My my father passed away yesterday like one year ago. Okay. That was the anniversary and that's the day I get attacked so so bad. You decided to do that. What? Do you have a heart? Do you have a heart,
people? Do you have a heart? that people anybody that tried to nword bomb me, Joe Shipley, Alex, people I I talked to, let on my show, I'm so kind to gave a reading for his for his girlfriend or his friend or whatever, you know, not asking for something up front, you know, just like out of the kindness of my heart, you know, if you pay me, you
don't pay me, you know, for the reading. If you get memberships, you don't get memberships like you say you will, I don't really care. It's like, I'll I'll still do a reading for you. I'll still let you promote your channel. I'll still keep you in the chat. I'll still let you on the panel. Probably still will, but you want to with me like that. At a point it gets to like where it's like my heart can't take it anymore. My heart's hurting too much to
like continue to do this. Like, why? Just I just don't know why. It's like I expect it from my enemies or not. I don't even have enemies. I expect it from people that don't like me. You You're people that say you do like me and you're trying you're doing that to me. Okay. Why? I had to start the show probably eight times tonight from people with
me. It's hard. It hurts. Beetlejuice took me off his server after he's he's been removed from Emma's server. Brought back. I've been best like friends with him. let him on my panel every time he wants to come on. Um, introduce him to He's like, "Oh, introduce me to Paige." I'm like, "Oh, here Paige is on my show. Talk to her."
You know, it's like, you know, I want I want you to talk to her. Like, and then he's like, "Oh, well, you're not right for my server. You're you're you've broken the rules three times. I don't even know how I broke the rules. I really I don't I don't know how I broke the rules in Emma's server. I never said anything wrong in Emma's server. I'm kicked out of there. I don't the rules in her chat. I'm kicked out of her chat. I don't know how I offended Clumsy. She will never tell me. She says she didn't
give a about what I did to Hell Walker or I didn't even do anything to Hell Walker. It was a misunderstanding. But she's like, "No, you're not welcome here anymore. I don't I'm not ready to talk to you." Please talk to me. Call me on the phone. Can I talk face to face? It's hard talking just on text and stuff like that. No. She's like, "No." You know, they kicked out of other servers.
Al Aldi even kicked me off of his server. Aldi. Aldi kicked me off of his server up without even a warning, right? I got kicked Aldi's server. I still let Aldi back four or five times, six times. Also let Aldi back and stuff like that. Like, but guys, like what what's the deal? Why am I Why am I like always a piece of Why am I always wrong?
Why am I always like the the one to be just pushed on your shoe? I'm trying my best, guys. Why am I always the one who's in the wrong? Why? I don't understand. What am I? What? Did I What did I do to anybody? Did I do something wrong to you? Did I Did I try to harm your channel? Did I do anything wrong to you ever? Just tell
me. Tell me what I did wrong. I'm I'm I'm sorry if I did nothing wrong. I'm sorry. Forgive me. No one forgives me. It's always me. It's always me. Why is it always me? What am I doing wrong? Just tell me. Tell me I'm Tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'd love to
know. I don't know, beta, because it's like I I'm so I'm I'm thrown away faster than a piece of dog poop on the corner, right? Do you love me? Do you I know you I know a lot of you do love me. I know some people do love me, but it's like people I consider friends are so quick to throw me away and like say, "I don't
want anything to do with you. Oh, you're gonna be bad for my channel. And it's like, and I have a I have a bigger channel than some of you, some of the people that are saying that. And I actually help some of the people that are saying that grow their channel, get to 50 subscribers, constantly send people to their channel, please. I I just want to help. Why do why are some people so quick to throw quick to throw
away people that are trying to help them? Beta, Alisa, and uh other people in chat are the real ones. No matter what's happened, people have told them terrible things about me. People have said terrible things about me, about them to me. I'm not ever going to leave them for any reason. I don't believe those people,
right? Why Why am I Why Why am I being attacked so hard? Because I said, "Hey, consider me for IP2 if you want me there. If you don't, it's like and they're like, "Oh, IP hates you. IP2 doesn't want you. It's okay if they don't want me and stuff like that. Is are you from IP2? Most people aren't from IP2. I know people from IP2 that
that will help me and stuff like that, right? I'm kicked out because gays are mostly so. Okay. So that's right, Axe. So that's why that's a good point, right? Isn't that a sad thing in the world right? That's what so that is that it is that
why so people think because I'm gay I must be that right and so I should I'm just I'm just open open target right is that true
guys I can't help being gay I told I mean I can't help that I was on Benny Benny Blanco I told you I'm not attracted to Maybe I've been attracted to people in my 20s throughout my life. Kill me, right? But am I trying would I try to like groom them? Would I try to like manipulate them? Would I try for sex and stuff like that?
No. People in their 20s are considered adults though, right? I don't know. Now the world's changed. Now people in 20 Now they call them kids, right? People at 25 years old. Oh, they're a kid. Why are you talking to a kid? 25 years old. I last I checked it was 18 or over are considered adults,
right? Am I wrong, guys? I don't know. I know. I'll have to deal with more being gay. And I know it's not it's not going to be easy. It's not It's never been easy being gay. I always like people in my school, I was pulled in principal's office, "Oh, you're making this person uncomfortable. They say you're hitting on them." I'm like, I'm not hitting on them. I'm not attracted to that person. It's like, but I might have like made a joke or something like
that. Everyone else is like wrestling around talking about giving hand jobs to each other and all this stuff and and you know, having weekend sleepovers that I've never invited to and stuff like that. And then it's like I'm I'm the weirdo, right? I'll post the link. I'll post the link. I'm
sorry. It's not easy, guys. It's not easy. And then it's like, oh, then the gay, all gay people are PDFs, right? That's like the worst thing you can call somebody. And it's so easy to call any gay person that, right? Cuz it's like, oh, even if they're not, they're trying to corrupt. They're trying to recruit. Like the guy yesterday was like, oh, they're trying
to recruit recruit. They they can't they can't reproduce, so they have to recruit. I'm like, no. Do you know gay people um adopt what are called the undesirabs, right? But the most the people that are not adoptable, usually people that are in foster homes and the and the the gay couples that adopt them and then they turn into amazing people, right? Do you you guys know about this?
Right. I'm just under a serious attack, Bronze Bird. I'm under a serious attack for no reason. They're saying I'm I'm this. I'm that. I'm a bad person. Um I never did anything to anybody. Like jud guys, judge me on my behavior towards you. If I go to your channel and I start dropping the nword bum. If I start going to your channel and start indoxxing
people, I'm gone within 10 seconds. If I even say a joke no one likes, you know, or a joke maybe like not everyone got or stuff like that. If I make a joke, oh, I'm instantly banned, instantly unmoded, instantly. Oh, everybody else, oh, you get a second chance. Oh, yeah. Everyone else is in the family. You're not. The only family that ever accepted me is my family and BKG. That's the only That's
the only people that ever accepted me, right? Everyone else said, "No, you're not part of this community. Even though you're here, you're talking, you participate, you're not part of this community." BKG always like I asked Bea the first time I was like, "Can I be part of BKG?" And she said, "Of course." She's like, "You're already a part of it. You're already you're like, you know, you're part of it when I first met you, right? That's why that's what touches my heart, right?
I don't mean to get so upset, guys, but it's been so it's just so much tonight. It's like trolls are one thing. I see the trolls all day and all night and they bring me down sometimes just constantly saying this, this, this, that, that. Then I have people I consider my friends on the panel and they start nword bombing and they start u they start threatening people and they
start doxing people. It hurts. It hurts. I know. I deleted I deleted everything I could. All the all the streams and everything. I'm I'm letting it out because this is true. It's okay. 2020 Jay Dog. What's up? Is that Jay Dog?
Okay. Yo, what's up, Psyche? And I know. And J, I'm sorry if I ever like was inappropriate to you or anything. And it's like or made you uncomfortable or like, you know, I thought I was joking around. You know, I do think you're hot and I like I do like when you flex before, but I don't mean to like offend you or anything. I don't Did you ever take No, you're cool, bro. Like, we're
we're cool. Like, I'm I'm a married man. I'm 100% straight. Like, I'm comfortable with my sexuality. I could take a joke. I have gay friends. You know, I don't have a problem with the gay community. I embrace them. I love them. You know, we're all one one kind and we all just got to be nice to each other and just love each other. I I support heterosexuality. My my parents were both
straight, you know. I I was born from an actual straight couple, you know, and I think a lot of the gay people were they were born from a straight couple. There's a few gay people that were born artificial, not artificial, but you know, adopted and things like that. And there's there straight people and they have gay parents maybe, but I was born for straight parents. Most gay people were. So, I don't hate straight people. I love straight people and most of the
world is straight people, right? And it's like I don't I'm not trying to tear marriage. I'm not trying to like seduce you away from your wife, even though Oh, no, no, no. I never took it like that. I I took it I laughed at it the same way you did. Like it was a joke. And you know, some people like Tommy James, they don't um you know, they don't Yeah. take the joke too lightly, too seriously. You know, they take themselves too
seriously. You know, I take it as a joke. And you know, this show welcomes, you know, straight, gay, by you know, whatever you trans trans people. Yeah. You welcome all and everybody. you you have a very welcoming and welcome anybody to your community. So yeah, nobody nobody hates you. Psych. No, people do hate me though because people if they didn't hate me, I wouldn't have to start the stream over eight times
because I think those are just like your haters. Those are like your haters, you know. Those are like a propar Roxy, you know, you kind of go somewhere, you know, trying to go somewhere to dinner with your family and what what gets in the way, you know, what a famous person, what does Alicia Jordana go through? You know, when she's trying to go eat with her family, she got paparazzi trying to get in her way. Those are obstacles. So you just got to jump over those obstacles and you know it's annoying
sometimes but you know you just got to make do with what you got. But paparazzi will take your p take your photo and stuff like that. They won't start maybe maybe they'll say some things to antagonize you and stuff like that. Yeah. Those will be the bad paparazzi. So you'll have your good and your bad. So you got to kind of take the trolls like okay that's just my bad publicity. I got to try to try to navigate away from them. Even though you know sometimes they come under the disguise
like oh can I just take your picture? But that picture turns in. Can I get your autograph? Can I follow you? You know, they they want more and more and more. There's always there's always a flattering picture where you you'll be like licking your eyes and like go maybe like rubbing your nose like oh they're picking their nose and they're they're closing their eyes and they're making a weird face and it's like that's the
photo they show of you. There's unflat there unflattering angles like a nice angle and then it's like go like that one day and accidentally you know just like run oh and it's like oh look at this purse look how ugly they are right it's like and we all have unflattering pictures and you know my my mom my mom I would take 10 pictures of my mom and she'd be like oh let me look at the photos and
she would delete nine out of 10 of them and she you know she she went want the best best angle and stuff like that the best you know the because sometimes we we go through different blinks and you know we rub our eye and we make a funny face sometimes, right? And it's like we guys we have to understand like the photo you see we could have pictures of us and unflattering unflattering
expressions and things like that. We all like to have a nice nice nice picture of us just smiling and our teeth showing our eyes open. We we can like a little something rubs our ear and it's like h and then you get this photo you're like like that for you for one second right let's just take all the photos that we pick that one instead of like picking
the nicest photo of you right y you're cool dude J dog and Jay dog you I never felt like you judged me I never felt like you were unkind to me you never you never said the n-word you never you never doxed anybody it's like you were just a chill dude and it's like you know so I'm sorry if if I ever said anything wrong to you in a safe.
We're cool, Son. We're cool. We're homies. We're good, bro. Like, you don't have to ever worry about like offending me or anything like that. Unless you like say Jay Dog, like straight up, you. You're this, this, and that. Then I'd be like, whoa. Hey, like where's this coming from? But Jada, Jada, I I just added my house to I added my house to uh to rub rub rub uh rub maps and um
can you just look you can look can you look that up and just come over one time. Just one time and just come I'm going to lay you on the table. I'm going to give you I'm not I'll I'll ask you before the happy end. Well, but before that I'll just give you a nice massage and you can just give me a good review. Okay. We'll give you good reviews. Okay. I'll post a good review right now on your Yelp right now. Okay. Say five
stars. Yeah. Five stars. You want to say hi to Jay Dog? Trixs tricks. Say hi to you. Hold on. He's gonna say cute. Hey Jay Dog. Hey Jay Dog. Hi. How are you? Hi J Dog. I like Jay Dog. J Dog's a cool ass dude. Jay Dog loves me. Jay Dog loves
me. Yeah, you're saying that chicks. He's gonna wave. Hey Jay Dog. Hey. Hey. What's up? He's cute. He's a cutie. You want to say hi, Lola? Can I say hi to you, Lola? Lola's like, "What the hell are you waking me up for?" Lola, do you want to say hi,
too? That's Lola. This Lola, you want to say hi, too? Yeah. But I never Jay Dog, I know a lot of lot of straight guys will say, "Oh, you're hitting on me. You offending me." It's like it's always like the people that are actually straight and like you know they just don't they don't care. People that are like question their sexuality always
seem to say, "Oh, you offended me. Oh my god." And make a big deal out of everything. Oh, you're sexually asking me like blah blah blah. And then they're usually the most people that are question their sexuality, right? Am I right, Cad? Or am I wrong? Yeah. You know, I sympathize too. You know, I I do have um a gay brother, too. And he does,
you know, do the the you know, I don't want to say like a trans, I would say the cross dressing kind of like that cuz he does do like drag night and stuff like that. So, you know, I sympathize with the community a lot. Well, drag drag queens are different than trans, right? It's like because everyone will go crazy over the Oh, there was a drag
queen um reading to kids and stuff like that. And there was some inappropriate stuff maybe the drag queens did, but I think that was mainly a scop like they're like, "Oh, they wanted to get the craziest craziest drag queen to read to school kids and say, "Oh, look at this is the gay community. This is this is what they're doing. This is they're trying to corrupt the kids." I think that it was set up probably by very
conservative people trying to like make a a social engineering kind of experiment and see, oh, let's get everyone riled up against community, right? I don't I don't think it was any of public opinion. Huh. I don't think it was it was it a drag queen that said, "Oh, please let me come read to the school children and stuff like No, it's like oh, can can you know Miss Bambi
Cavalier come and and read a story and twerk in front of like fifth graders and stuff like that and then we all take pictures and we'll say look at what the the the gay and trans people are doing. They're trying to and drag queens are not fighting for drag queen right. I've never seen a drag queen rights parade, right? Drag queens different than trans transsexual guys. By the way, if you
don't know, there's a difference. Drag queens are usually gay men trying to um have a character and they like to get in. They get like women's clothing and outrageous makeup and stuff and usually they look pretty good and stuff like that. And it's like and mostly a lot of mostly straight people go to their shows and have a laugh, you know. It's like Oh, yeah. I've been me and my wife have
been to a few of them. Um her her cousin is actually um gay and does that a lot also. and he goes down to LA, Long Beach area and goes down and goes some of the shows down there. So, I've been to a few of them and seen them perform. What happened to my live chat in the last video? What happened to the live chat is that um Alexander was
doxing and Alexander's a friend of mine and he started doxing people in the when I I went I left for two minutes to go to other channels and say, "Hey, come to my channel." And then I came back and they're like, "Alex is doxing in in your chat." and stuff like that, which is unacceptable. And Alice, I still love you and stuff like I forgive you. One in a million chance that it
wasn't intentional, but if I mean, it's like it's like it's like one time is an accident, second time is a coincidence. Third time is on purpose, fourth time is malice, fifth time is like they're trying to you over. Okay? So, so when they get when it gets to the fifth time, it's like they're trying to me over. I take that more personally, right? I'll take the first four as like
coincidence. Maybe even if it's the fourth time it's Malice. Alex disabled. Yeah. And he and Alice disabled my whole chat because I was trying to go in my chat and like and moderate my chat and it was like the chat was disabled. It just said live so I had to end the last stream because it was like all disabled. Right. I'll be right back. I'm grabb. Okay. Mini Manson, I hope you're okay. Mini Manson,
you know I love you so much. You're a really cool dude. You always were cool to me. You know, people will say, "Mini Manson will do this and that and this and that and uh and Mini Manson will strike you and stuff like that, but I know you wouldn't do that to me, Minansson." Okay? I know you're you're a cool dude and you're you always been
kind to me. I I know it's like sometimes people that will antagonize you and and maybe that's a reason to like be angry at that person, but I I know I was always cool with you, okay? And he was threatening me right before he did it. I know. Maybe I I I shouldn't leave my chat for even two minutes with some people on the panel. I can trust Jay Dog, though. Jay Dog's a
cool dude. I'm going to put on full screen for a second if I don't you don't mind. Look how cute he is. I love I love your beard. Say nothing like that, man. Actually, now you're getting mad at me. Okay, I won't get mad. No, I'm just with you. I'm just bullshitting, man. I'm just playing. Okay. Yeah. Let's say Fred. Yeah. Until you misbehave, but you never misbehaved Mini Manson. Did you see Minnie Manson on this? Did you jump
to Minnie Manson before in the show Jay Dog or see the Yeah, I've seen I've seen when you had the interview and then I've been on panel when Minnie came on a you know for a little brief moment and then jumped off real quick. You know, chat was kind of attacking Minnie at the time and they were Yeah. And I know Chad will I know Minnie's been under attack and like you know c certain people in the
community will be under attack but you know Minnie is really really cool. Also, Minnie also has I'll post Mini Manson's banner. I'll put it down. I don't I won't prove myself. I I'll put Minnie Manson because Mini Manson's been in the chat tonight and I want to say thank you Mini Manson. There's Mini Manson's guys. If you want if you want the um some cool merch like a really really if you want
some cool refri refriger mag sorry refrigerator magnets some art personalized art he will make you personalized art and contact him at that email address if you want to send him a donation send him a cash up I don't care about my cash app I don't care about my my donations right now I'm I want many
mans to feel like he's respected and uh and loved here okay and it's like And so if anyone with Minnie Manson, they with me. Okay. I love you, Mini Manson. Thank you for Yeah. Come on. A better day. Your health controls you. I know we all we some some of us have health health issues and it's like we're not feeling our best, right? We we don't always feel like
being on panels and talking and stuff like that. But I want to thank you for always being um the cool, respectful. I was I try to be respectful, too. and and also they're loving and also let you have let you have the forum to entertain cuz I I know you're an entertainer, Mini Manson. Okay, so
you're always cool with Manson. You're you're a cool dude. Okay, but Jay Dog, so tell me about Rub Maps. So Jay Dog, the first time you went on road maps, I want to hear I like the story. So, so Jay Dog, you got you got naked
and you laid on top of the bed. Yes. Okay. And they came in face down. They came in, locked the door. She put a couple of towels down on the on the other side of the bed and then went around the table, turned the light down, dimmed them down, and then just starts, you
know, little by little rubbing on the shoulders, the back like that. You're this time your entire You have a nice butt and your entire butt is is is revealed at this time, right? Yes. Yes. You're completely butt down. You're completely face down, ass up. So completely butt down. Did you do you do you go on your knees a little bit or you
just flat flat on the No, flat. Flat. You can be on you can be on your knees, but but that signals something else like Okay. If you want to get that's for that's for later in the that's for later the massage where you can get up on your knees or you can you know you can always just forego the massage and just go straight to the entree to the main
course but but that was what that was. Well now now you're in my fantasy. Okay I'm so sorry. Okay I'm not going to I'm not I won't imagine that ever. I won't imagine that ever but I might might a few times. Okay. But but you're married man and you're a straight guy. Okay. So I'm sorry. I'm
sorry to talk. Yeah, you're a straight guy. But he did tell me about Rub Maps. So guys, if you ever want to go to rubmaps, rubmaps.com. I don't want to keep promoting like an outside website, but Rub Maps. You ever want a little extra a little bit extra on your massage? There's some Thai massage parlors. There's some Chinese massage
parlors or other massage parlors. They have Latino ones, too. They They have those if you're just strictly into Latino or to black or, you know, I've actually even seen um an Indian one or a Punjabi one. I'm not sure, you know, which one exactly it was, but I could be wrong. But or maybe it was Arab, one of
those two. You know, every every race is beautiful. Every race has beautiful people. And every, you know, but I'm afraid I won't be able to go there. I I'll prefer I'll go there. I'll get a transsexual. I mean, not afraid, but I'll get a transsexual or woman and then I'll I'll still want the I'll still want the entree, right? Yeah. And uh but you know what? I have my eyes
closed. I have an imagination. I can I'll just imagine Jay Dog giving giving me the massage. And then the first time I went there was actually when I went on Rub Maps. the first time it was at a massage parlor completely out of my my town. And so I said, "Okay, well, my friends are not
doing nothing." This was a long time ago before I was married. And I just remember saying, "Oh, there's one right there on the outskirts of town. I want to try that one." So I go there and you know, there's only like three or four different girls. Two of them were older ladies like in their
50s. And the other ones were like in their 20s and maybe even early 30s. So it was being my first time there. So So Jada, Jada, let me just ask you. So you go into a massage parlor, you take off all your clothes, you have your butt up a little, you're you're flat on the table, but your butts up a little bit. And then someone that not Flirty Diamond, but someone that looks
like Flirty Diamond a little bit walks in. What would What would you do? That that one right there. Um, I'm going to put my clothes back on. I'm going to say sorry, I want somebody else because I'm not into that type of, you know, I'm not into trans. There's nothing wrong with them, but I'm not into the trans. But no, but when I first saw Pretty
Diamond, I had no idea. Maybe in the back of my mind, I was like, maybe this is a trans, but in the back of my mind, I was like, oh, she's a really hot chick, right? And it's like, so you don't always know. You can't always tell. So what if like not not 40 diamond but let's say you know someone is Pamela Anderson walks in but it's a Pamela Anderson trans and you have no idea it looks just like Pamela Anderson. Okay.
So what would happen? Well the first thing I do because one of my friends also did get tricked like that. He took a a girl into the bedroom that was you know her hands were the size of his. This guy's six foot five and he's like 230 pounds like a basketball player, you know, real
lengthy guy. And we knew it was a guy, but he didn't know. Or we thought he knew, but he just was he just didn't care. We're like, "Okay, well, whatever floats his boat. We're not going to bust his bubble. That's what he wants to do." You know, more power to him. Let him have fun. So, he took it upstairs. Next thing you know, we're downstairs drinking beers.
Three minutes later, we seen the girl coming downstairs crying and running out in between, you know, in the living room out the front door. And then we seen my friend come down and downstairs and threw in the like shoes and like some like clothes like a shirt and stuff like that saying, "It's a dude.
It's a dude." So he exploded. They might have a crying game, but they might have a crying game moment because usually the masseuse will be fully clothed and you you won't you won't ever know, right? It's like you can't can't say, "Oh, show me your genitalia before you give me a massage." Oh, no. But here's here's the key how you can get
get around that. Um, another way to not let them know that you're a police officer or law enforcement is you got to touch. Cuz a a cop won't touch, you know, like the ass, the boobs down there. And they'll let you touch everywhere. And you can even take off the clothing, too. Like if you want the bottoms, and you'll be able to see what
you're getting right there. Right. But that sounds like a little bit like almost like if you want a happy ending, you're not necessarily gonna like strip the masseuse down naked and stuff like that. You'll be it'll actually happy ending. There's two there's two types of happy endings. There's Oh, it gets more extreme. It gets more extreme than the
You can just go full on sex if you want. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I've had that too before a few times at different places. Yeah. A few times at different places. the different massage parlors. Cuz when I think of happy ending, not to be weird or repensive, I I think of happy endings is like you're laying back and they turn you over,
they're like like $20 more or something or you say you say you just point to your dick and stuff like that and then let them go tohead with their hands. I'm not thinking that it's going to be a full on No, it varies. It you could you could get, you know, just what you're just saying right there, just a happy ending like that. You can get, you know,
oral if you want oral, just that or you can get, you know, everything and above, which is, you know, the sex, you can get the oral, you can get everything. The I I I I really think about I really think about the massage like like and I think the guy like on the massage table is just like a little bit more and then he
gets on kind of on his knees and they can have some rectal play or they could play with the balls and and you know, all that kind of stuff. I don't I usually don't think of it as like a everyone gets naked and we have full sex, but maybe maybe that I I kind of have a more innocent view of the happy and it could it only goes as far as you want it to go. If you want it to go
further, you call the shocks. It's completely up to the customer. But if you have someone walk in and it's like maybe they have like a little masculine feature, but it's like their Pamela Anderson with like a little bit of a, you know, big arms or something like that. And it's like you don't quite know. And it's like you don't want the their bottoms off, their top off or
anything. You just want to be happy ended, right? Stuff like that. So would you would you care so much about what at the end of the day what their gender is if if they had that illusion? Yeah, I I would be very very, you know, disappointed if, you know, if I found out, you know, it was But you wouldn't find you you wouldn't find out. You wouldn't find out. And, you know, if they're using their hands, their mouth,
or their their their their face and stuff like that, you wouldn't really necessarily find out unless they were fully unclothed. Right. I'm just That's why I would always That's why myself, I would always partake in in the full everything. Okay. I would never just go for one thing. I would always go for So you like you you would roll over, you like get fully nude. I want to see I
want to see the Yeah. And then and then go from there before I even did anything. It was always strip down before. Cuz in my mind it was like they walk in the room and then at the end of the massage they say, "Oh, happy ending." Or they'd say, "Oh, you want like a little bit more like a $20 tip or something like that?" And you just roll over,
close your eyes. It's kind of like that, but it's more like when you're laying flat and they're massaging the shoulders, you're already grabbing around and going to reach around, you know, going in the butt, you know, in the butt. Okay. Yeah. You know, touching the cheeks, you know, rubbing the back a little bit like that, stroking the leg and stuff like that. It seems a little
bit more that in my mind, it was just like the person being massaged is just like, you know, letting everything happen, right? Okay. I don't want to get too explicit in this and stuff like that. We're having a kind of adult conversation, you know, is 18 or over in this chat. You know, is this made for adults only? Yeah. Nothing explicit. This is just educational purposes only. Yeah. Educational. But you but you never
like just like flipped over, put your butt up in the air a little bit and just like close your eyes and let them do whatever they want. No, no, no, no. I I've never just pre freeballed it like that. Never. Okay. Well, that's what I would do. I mean, I would not be like I would not be like, "Oh, take off all your clothes and like you know, get on the massage massage. I don't want the massage table to break and stuff like
that." I would just be like, you know, I I would just be like, "Focus on me. I I don't I don't feel like giving a massage. I'm paying for the massage. So, I'm not going to be feeling around and figuring out what's what's Pamela Anderson walks in. Pamela Anderson walks in. You're you're butt naked on the table and she's she grabs
for it. Okay. Are you going to are you going to like immediately say, "Let me let me see what's under under there." Do you really would you care at that point or would you No, you're not really care. I I I would care. I I've always very been conscious about that ever since, you know, when my friend had had that incident. So, even made me more aware of
that, you know, especially with the cosmetics and then the surgeries these days. Well, there is there is all that, but I'm saying a massage a massage is usually, you know, there's one person just laying down, relaxing, and having things done to them, and the masseuse is doing things to them. So, I'm saying you really would check make sure 100% before they got more what if what if what if
they gave you the massage first they gave you a massage and then when they got to the more intimate part and you asked about that and you saw a wiener would you be mad would you be mad about the massage or something like that? Yeah, I would be very very mad about that. Yeah, 100%. But I always but really but before it even gets to that part before the massage even gets when
they're working the shoulders when I used to first do it they always would start in the head the neck and the shoulders first. So I would always take it as my point to verify before it even goes any further with the with the feeling you know the touching. So, so, so, so J Dog, so if I was to give you a backhead head massage, would that be
okay or is like too gay to have a guy do that? Yeah. No, I I I would feel very uncomfortable having a guy massage me. Okay. They can be honest. They can be honest, but most most men like there's a lot of men, there's a lot of bodybuilders and stuff that they request a male masseuse and things like that. Yeah. And you know, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, more power to
them. It's just I'm not myself. I I can't be comfortable with it myself. So, Jay Dog, if I if I like were drinking and stuff like that and just gave you a hug, like a hug, how far could the hug go? I want I want to know that part. A
bro hug like this? Like a you a fist bump and something like that? Or could you would you hold my whole hand and give me a a real hug? No, no. Like like a real hug like like that? Like a complete hug? That's that's a little pat That's a little pat when they say sometimes hugs when you give a pat on the back that's kind of kind of called an insincere hug where it's like oh I
don't really like you when they give you a pat on the back but if I was like to give you a hug for like five seconds and I was like just like put my arms around you and put my head on your shoulder for 5 seconds. Would that be like too gay? Yeah, I think that would be a little too long. Yeah, that four seconds or three seconds. How long have you been the minute you just said put the head on the
shoulder and like and then you kind of like went like that like leaning it like kind of rescued it. You know that right there kind of like okay you're getting comfy right there. Guys guys we're we're learning about it. But if I would you would you punch me in the face or would you say would you just kind of pat me in the back? No. I would never resort to violence like that. that never, you
know, unless you intentionally like were kept, you know, Well, I would I would intentionally I would I would intentionally lay my head on your shoulder and and smell your neck and stuff like that, but at what point would you would you punch my face and and tell me to go away? No, no, no. See, no. No. See, Uhuh. Then if you get it to me on purpose, then then I have to punch. But
if it's if it's a Pamela Anderson Pamela Anderson woman, are you Pamela Anderson? Yes. Yes. But Pamela Anderson in Dra, it's a it's a transsexual Pamel. No, no, no. No terms. She look She looks exactly like Pamel Exactly Pamel Anderson. There's no difference. She has the pits. She has the butt. She has everything. And maybe even had that sex change. And
how would you know? How would you know the difference between the sex change and and the if you just feel down there, you feel like a little minute? I just saw like the minute when I first saw the flirty diamond like I kind of knew something was off. And then I just was very very very you know observant. And then when I started hearing the voice it was like okay. And
then it just confirmed my suspicions from there. I was like okay this girl has a deep voice. And I'm saying okay and this girl's back is as big as mine. I'm like I'm trying I'm just trying to figure out like cuz they're very convincing transsexuals. I I have this there's a woman Ni Exotica. There's another woman,
I forgot her name, but she's like she goes on a on a monkey app and the chat and don't chat her, but but she goes monkey app and Omegle and stuff like that and talks to guys and the guys 90% of the time the guys even if she reveals herself cuz she's so hot, they're like, "I don't care. Me and my homeboy are going to come over there. We're we're going to run a train on you. Like we
don't we don't care." Right? And so that's what I hear that sometimes, but I understand you're a little bit more you're more of the straight guy type where you're a little bit more of like, you know, you're you're going to check you're you're check the oil before you before you buy the car, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm not Yeah. No, I don't have nothing against the gays, but I just don't want
it pushed on me. No, nothing pushed on you, but I'm saying some people are feel like they're born in the wrong body, so they consider themselves 100% 100% women and stuff like that. maybe a gay guy, but I know it's not it's not going to be a gay guy coming in in a wig and a a drag queen coming in. It's going to be like a actual person that feels that they're a woman in a man's body and and
they're they're going to have it tucked up. They're going to have it on the ass and tucked up and No, but you won't you won't feel all you feel is all you'll feel some pubic hair there. You'll feel like a little bit of a a little bit of a bulge maybe. Most of the time you won't. No, no, no bulge right there. No. Well, but also also the vagina can be
bulged out too. The vagina can be bulged. And then when I seen that when I when it's, you know, like bulge, then I'm like, okay, they don't want to see the good because then I'm like, okay, well, what's going on there because I'm confused. And then when I see or if I suspect, okay, it's a game over. So J J is a typical straight guy. If he feels
if he feels if your vagina is like a little bit um um enlarged, you know, if if he feel if he feels that, he's going to say no. He's going to say, "Stop doing the stop." You're say, "Stop the massage. Stop the massage." Right? Massage that end it right there. The massage has ended. Okay. What But what if it's just a woman with a a very large
clitoris and then you you think it may be a dick, but you don't know for sure. What What would happen there? If I have to here's my my theory on life and a lot of choices I make on everything and I learned it very very early in age is if you have to think about something it's probably not a good idea. So like let's
say oh I think I'm going to buy this today but I don't know if you have a butt in any of that part of what you're going to do or if you have a doubt then it's probably not a good idea. So, every time I have a doubt, what what is it? Like, I don't I don't want you to see my I want you to see just my butt and my boobs and stuff like that. So,
what if they say that and then Yeah, I already know that's a red flag right there. And then it's a red flag, but they're so hot. Is Pamela an is Pamela Anderson saying that to you? And she's like, I don't like my being looked. I I have like a little bit too many hairs. Too many black hair. Yeah. Then I'd be like, no. Yeah, something's up. And then right there, it's a red
flag for me. And then either I'm going to request a new girl or I'm going to want to I'm going to want to just, you know, take a shower. You You're really You're really about this the sex part of it. You're really this what the sex is right there. You care that Do you care that much about their sex or it's like the illusion is fine? Just tell me that. Like like Wait, say it again. I'm sorry.
I didn't hear that. Do do you care so much about what their actual sex is or what they're born as or even if they had a sex change and stuff like that and they have your perfect ass to you, the perfect boobs to you, the perfect face to you, you're going to care that much about if they had a sex change or not. Just tell me that. Yeah, cuz to me I I wouldn't be able to. Again, it goes like
to the massage thing. It's just something I couldn't get past. So, I don't want to even, you know, say, "Oh, yeah, I'm cool with it." And then at the end of the day, I'm kind of not cool with it. It just It just seems to me like I'm not It just seems to me like it's a lot of paperwork. It's a lot of like let me Okay, now I need to verify this. I need to verify that because you're in the
moment when you're having a massage. You're you're up, you know, have your butt up on the massage table. They are your cheeks are are are full of oil, you know, and you're in in a relaxed state. You really care that much? I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering. Yeah, cuz at that point, I'm not even wanting to
go no further because I already got violated if it was if I was misled. And it's not even just like this. We'll just say if it was by It don't even have to be sex. It could be the same thing like if a woman says, "Oh, I want a guy and I want to have kids with this man and I've never had an abortion before in my life." And
if she doesn't kill that guy and then the guy asks her, "Hey, have you ever had an abortion before?" No. No. But at the end of the day, she did. So, it's kind of like the lie. Kind of like the lie right there. But there's there's always a lie involved in in your relationship. There always a lie. You never know the woman's
history. You never know the man's history. Okay? And so you never and you're you're in a state, you're having a massage, it's the best massage you ever had in your life, and you put your butt up a little bit. And they play a little bit with your butt and stuff like that. And it's like, do you really care if it's a man or a woman at the end of the day? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Yes, I care 100%.
See, before they before they before they put their finger under your butt and stuff like that, you're gonna before before they even touch me. I care what it is. Before they even touch me, what they touch you because because you're not massage therapists touch you, the most massage the legit massage
therapists, you're not going to be able to tell 100% who who that is. And so are you gonna let them start massaging you and give you a full body massage? Well, if I didn't know about it, like let's say if I had a membership care, if I went to the massage envy and you know how they say they have, you know, that's like a legit one, you know, they got the uniform on, they got the license on the wall and everything like that. They're
not they're not going to but players. No, there's not going to be no way to verify. And if I didn't know about it there, well, there's nothing I could do about it because it's kind of like, well, it already happened. Could you but would that take but because you don't know whether to take away from the massage or you just like you know say whatever this person is male or female you're g give professional massage
that's what I'm trying to figure out. Yeah. No I I care if it's a male or female. But if it was somebody like like like what you were saying like the trans and I didn't know about it. Well there wasn't no way for me to know about it because they never would have gotten naked for me to verify. Alexander what do you have to say? Alexander. Alexander what do you have to say? Alexander, what? What? What? What are you going to
give to me? I was texting you in the back chat not to let me in. Literally, I was just literally texting in the back. Don't do it, bro. Okay, I I won't. I won't. So, Alexander, if you get five more memberships tonight, I might let you back in, but I don't I don't feel like dealing with the other tonight. I don't I don't care. Oh, don't let me in. Don't let me in. Don't let me
in. You get five memberships, I'll let you back in until you up again, Alexander. Okay. So, but I don't feel like getting a lecture from Alexander tonight. Talking to Jay Dog about some hot stuff. Okay. So, so you go to Rub Maps, you go to a Thai Thai massage parlor, they walk in, they're they look
like a woman, they sound like a woman, they feel like a woman, you're getting a regular massage. You need to see the genitalia of that. You need to make sure they verify what were they born as before you get it. Or it's like they give me a regular massage and it's like I don't care if a man or a woman gives me massage. I I can accept pleasure from anybody as long as it's just
professional. Or they get to that point where they're like, "Okay, we're going to start putting my my finger in your butt. You need you actually need to see the genitalia. I just need to make sure about this." Okay. Yeah. No, 100%. If it's a dude, it's a nogo. If it's a female, yes. So whenever you request when you request a massage 100%
of the time you request a massage you said I need a woman to massage a naturalb born woman right I'm sorry you say I need a naturalb born woman to massage me yeah I just say I need a woman yes and they're like okay we will get you the women we have available what but what if you say I need a woman and then they say okay
flirty flirty diamond says identifies I said no I said no because they would categorize that as trans because there is certain individuals that will go and request a trans massage in mass. Okay. Yeah. I was trying to find out but I'm just trying to find out has there ever been something somebody you may
have suspected that they didn't show their genitals. You just like rolled over. They put your finger they put their finger in your butt and it gave you the best massage you ever had that you were like I don't really care if it was a male or female. It was the best massage I ever had. I'm just asking that. Okay. Yeah. No, I would still care if it was a male or female. But I'm saying I'm
saying a massage therapist usually doesn't take down their pants and and show you their genitals. So, you never really know. Okay. Yeah. You can say I request a woman. She can walk in a bikini, have it all tucked under very carefully, have huge tits. Right. I've been trying to find out. Do you after the massage and you found out it's
actually they were born biological male but they were they to you they appeared a female the whole time. Would you really care that much? Does it really matter that much? I would really really care. Yes. I was be very very pissed off. Okay. Can somebody else go on the panel too? I want to I'm I need a question. Yeah. The finger in the butt. Yeah. Whoop whoop. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Exactly. But uh um Okay. So I'm saying
you're saying that you're on the panel. I'm saying in real life, what in real life it really work out that way? Sometimes it might not work out that way. Are you really gonna like And what if you found out when their fingers up your butt and then you like look and you see a little No, I never had no finger in my butt. I don't give the like that.
No, I don't get down that way. But sometimes sometimes that's part of the massage. I mean, it's like they've tried in the past. They have tried to go in the nether regions before, but then that's when you can block it off and be like, "No, no, I don't want that." And then they tell you, kind of lead them where you want more. You're also you're you're also saying
that you go to you you you're also saying you did the full shebang with people and stuff like that. So when you're in massage, which is like a professional the professional part of it, which is beyond the that is that you don't really know at that point. Okay? So they come they come down and they massage your butt cheeks. Okay? and and it's a Pamela Anderson, right? And massaging your butt cheeks and you don't
know the sex yet and it's part of the regular massage. Are you really going to care that much? That's what I'm wondering. Yes, I I would care. Okay. Cuz I had I I've had my butts butt massaged by female the female massage therapist, male massage therapist. It's part of the you know, your butt your butt has a lot of stress on it sometimes and it's like you really don't care
who's doing it that time. It's like as long as they're doing a good massage, right? I'm just trying to figure out it's like you're if they get when they get down, how how far down the butt butt crack do they need to get before you start saying I need to see your genitals? No. No. Uhuh. That's always a no-go. I don't do that with the massages. When when I work on massage
parlors, I I'm never get that at all. No, but that's that's part of the that's part of a standard massage is like they'll go down your butt cheeks at some point. that they'll they'll like massage your butt and they'll anytime it's gotten anywhere close to that point, I've shut it down and I I you know miss I I mean if it get I mean if it gets too close to the hole I understand you're
like okay that's a little bit too close but you know we have the glutamus maximus right and it's part of our muscle structure right it's like just part of like the legs and then you go you you when I went to the massage parlor yeah no we didn't we didn't do like Yeah,
cuz I went to massage envy. I had a very straight guy massaging me and he would go in in the inside the cheeks and stuff like that and uh around the butt and stuff like that and roll me over, go into the the crotch and stuff like that. Not the private parts, but around it,
right? I didn't care if it was a man or a woman doing it. I really didn't care. I'm just trying that good like like it was that good of a massage like it that's how good it was. Is this is this a stand is a standard massage? Like massage therapists are like told, okay, because the glutus the butt gets sore, right? Most guy most guys would like to have a little bit of a a little bit of massage on their butt and stuff like
that. Just like, you know, even if it's not like a long thing or go go between the cheeks, it's like, you know, that's part of the massage. You don't even want a guy touching your Did you ever play football? You football or baseball or anything like that? No, I did wrestling. You did wrestling? So, did the guy ever touch your butt in wrestling? Yeah. Okay. So, was that would you punch him
out because of that and that was considered what I did when he went that way, but it wasn't on purpose. You know, he was trying to grab you know my leg. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. Wrestling wrestling. You know how it is. Kind of like Twister. You know, you get all tangled up and you know, you're trying to pin each other. You know who can pin each other the fastest and you know, hold each other down.
So, you know, he did that and what I did is I reached around, you know, got him behind the that, but that's as far as it went, you know, just a a quick brush like a like that. And if their face goes towards too close, you can always fart and stuff like that and then then Oh, yeah. I've seen wrestlers do that to other wrestlers too before. Hold on. This guy says the n word. Hold. I need
to test this guy. Hold on. His name is Kadim. Kadim. If you said the N word. Oh, I know this guy. Hold on. Hello. Hello. Are you going to nword bomb me or porn bomb me or anything? Hello. Hello. This guy is very sus. No.
Is that Is that Is that Big Rob? Is that Are you Big Rob? No, Capri sing. Where are you from? game thing. Okay. So, so Khadim, have you ever had you're biracial? Have you ever had a You
been to Rub Maps or just even had a massage and how did you react when they touched your butt? Excuse me. So, someone So, you have a massage therapist and then she she she massages your butt. Are you going to pull down her pants and and say what's what was there before? Are you gonna say that?
Sorry. So, if you you get a massage, you get a massage one day. Um, Kadim, you get a massage one day and then they they start massaging your butt. Are you going to make sure that they're born a a natural-born female? Are I love you. I love you, Jay Dog. I'm sorry if I said anything wrong. Okay. Love J's hand. All
right. So, Kadim, are you going to say you need to be an you need to be a biological female to massage my butt? That's what I'm wondering. Just just massage. Not not nothing. It's a butthole. Just I feel like I'm being sexually aroused. Okay. Well, you can go away. Okay. What? Yeah. I I don't even know what
he's saying. So, it's okay. Yeah. Yeah. It Tracy's Oh, hold on. HK says says it's true. You know, it's like you don't necessarily know. I was in Thailand. We were getting Thai massages. We're all It was fully clothed, but I could tell the person next to me doing the massage and the next my friend, they were they were a
transsexual. I could tell. I could just tell. And uh so if it's a massage, guys, how about in the chat? Am I right or am I wrong? Is it okay? I mean, is it really matter who who touches you and stuff like that? As long as not a sexual manner and like they're not your pick your butt. I'm going to get a massage. I
need it from a woman. It would feel really really Yeah. But you don't The point is you don't know when they they start massaging because you don't tell a massage therapist when they get in, you get naked, too. I mean, that would be kind of weird. You say, "Okay, I I I I see a womanly characteristics on you. You look like a woman. You sound like a
woman. You You can give me a massage my back and rub my feet and go down my legs and maybe touch my butt cheeks a little bit, rub my arms and stuff like that. Are you that homophobic where you're like, I need to see the genitals. I need to see I need the birth certificate and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm that cautious
and homophobic, too. You are? Yeah. Yeah, but that's just me. Some people can get past it and some people can't. Me. I can't. So, so Jay Dog, how much how much can I massage you? How can I give you a shoulder massage? No, I don't get no massage for no man's sake. Okay. Well, I I I'll tell you
this. I gave my my father shoulder massages. I gave his friends shoulder massages when I I gave every a lot of people shoulder massages. Shoulder massage is like it's not a sexual thing. It's like a you I think I don't know. Am I being weird, guys? I don't know if it's too weird and stuff like that. I would rub
my dad's feet. I would rub I would rub his other people's feet. Guys, not in a sexual way. I don't know if I mean too weird. Okay. I'm saying you're being a little bit you know, too straight. Too a little bit too straight. I I don't know. You never You never like hugged your homie. You never
like give a kiss to see. We we have thug hugs, but like the one I was telling you like just like Well, that's a that's a little tap tap. But the tap tap the tap tap is not usually like very intimate. It's like usually I'll tell you in normal life when someone gives a tap on your back, it means they don't like you too much. It means like, oh, am I right? I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's
considered like a pity pat. Yeah, pity pat. Yeah. You give your So, but you ever give you ever have a real good homie and you like were maybe drunk one night and you just like give him a big hug without the like little tap tap like just a big hug. It's just like I love you. I love you, dude. Never. No, he never did. So guys, guys, J is 100%
straight. This is a real straight guy. You know, we're talking real straight guy. He does not even want to give a real hug to his friend, right? Yes, guys. The only time I I the only time I had been like held another guy
like like is when he one of my friends had got shot and I was holding him up just to make sure you know he wasn't bleeding out and he was halfway on the curb and he ended up dying anyway. It was a gay dog. Imagine if it's like it was considered too gay to even hold your
friend up and they're like and your friend is shot three times in the back and it's like, "Oh, I don't want to hold you like that cuz that's too gay." You know, it's like, you know, there's times in your life where it's like we're humans. We're trying to help each other and it's like some things are not too gay. Even if it maybe gay that time there's exceptions to the rule there.
There are exceptions. Okay. Okay guys, am I being am I being am I being weird guys? If I mean we were telling me okay the other guy left. Okay. I'm just saying I'm trying to give you trying to give you information. Okay. So yeah. See look at Christina knows what's up. So so so so Jay Dog. So someone comes by and shoots you in the back and then you have
a homie. He's a very straight homie and you always been straight. He comes up and he holds you and he and he he puts his hand over the wound before the ambulance gets there. Are you going to call him gay? No. He's trying to save my life, right? Okay. But may maybe maybe you're saving my life by giving me a
little affection before I die. Maybe that maybe maybe if you give me a hug. I don't know. Thug hug. A thug hug 100%. But if I'm wrong, guys, if I'm wrong, I'm saying the wrong thing and stuff like that. I don't I'm not trying to be gay get you gay and stuff like that. I'm saying, you know, we're all human beings. We can all like hold each other
in our arms and say I love you and stuff like that. If someone else is bleeding out and someone's about to Yeah. If they're bleeding out. Yeah. Yeah. You got to do what you can to take care of the other person. Like if you were if you were bleeding out, let's say if we were in the car and we got hit by a drive by it and you know, heaven for you know, God forbid that anything happens.
But let's just say like like for you know for instance like we got hit by driveby the bullets hit and they went through you like you had three bullet wounds and you fell to the ground. I would I would have to grab you and hold you and try to subdue those wounds. Those J what if I was shot in the butt
and you had to you touch my butt for like No. See right there like that's when it goes like if it goes I was saying if I got shot there and then my I'm bleeding from there and I'm like I would die in two minutes if you didn't hold me there and it's like and you're my friend. Would you like put your hand on my butt for like two
minutes to make sure the bleeding I didn't bleed out and stuff like that? You know what I would do? I here's exactly what I would do. Psychic. What I would do is I would look at my surroundings depending where we're at, especially if we're like in the inner city or anything like that. I would grab the first homeless person I
seen. I say, "Homie, come here real quick. I got 100 bucks for you. I need you to help save my friend's life. So, I need you to get your hand." And they put and I will have them help you like that second. And you know what I would do? and I will call 911 and I will make sure I got you the fastest ambulance there.
What What their hands What if their hands full of PCs and dirt and stuff like that? And your hand was clean. Yeah. No, that's okay. You know what? I always me I always carry sanitizing wipes. We don't make sure his hands are clean. So,
so Jay did say there's no there's no homeless people around. You're the only one within one mile of one mile of anybody. You're the only one that one person and you need if I'm in I'll I'll pass away. I have the I'm bleeding out of my butt. I need you to put your hand on my butt to save my life and there's
nobody else around. Would you say my life or would you say it's too gay? No, that's going to be too gay. But here, I'm not going at the same time. I'm not going to let you die though, psych. You know what I'm going to do? Yeah, but the other thing is I don't think is any sexual or gay. I'm saying it's like with the homophobia detract you from saving my life because you're like, "Oh, it's
wrong for a guy to put a hand on another guy's butt." Or would you say, "Hey, this is my friend. I'm going to save his life." I'm I'm going to save your life. I'm going to save your life, but I'm going to do it in a non gay type of way. I know it's not I'm not saying anything gay, but you would put So, what you're saying is you would put my hand in your You would put your hand in my butt for 2
minutes to save my life. No, you know what I would do? I'll find something that's like the same size as my hand and then I'll put it in there and then Okay, I'm completely I'm completely offended. I'm completely offended. No, he would he wouldn't. If I was if I was ble I'm bleeding out. I got shot in the butt cheek and I'm like, I need help. I need help. There's no
homeless people around. All I'll have is Jay Dog and he says it's too gay to put my hand in your butt. Guys, you understand what I'm saying? You understand what I'm saying, guys? You put his mouth in the wound. I don't mean to kiss you off your dog. I'm just saying. Can we guy guys, we have
circumstances. The last last resort is to help the people putting putting the hand over the guy. Am I wrong? I'm just I'm just saying. Are we so homophobic and so like, "Oh, now I'm gay if I if I save his life because I put my hand on his butt for two seconds. So, stop the bleeding." Am I wrong? Am I wrong or I'm
right? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm probably wrong. I'm asking hypothetical question. It's not like it's not any of this will ever happen. Nothing will ever happen. I'm asking if you were in this situation, would this would you save my life? Would you actually put your hand there to stop the bleeding? If it was on my butt if it was on my penis or
whatever you would you hold my penis for a minute. Okay. Just to like stop the bleeding. No, it's too gay. It's too gay. Guys, that's what I have to deal with. That's what I have to as a gay man. I have to deal with it's it's too gay. So, I can't do that. Maybe if it was a straight guy, he would say, "Oh, I know the guy is straight. I know he doesn't he's not getting he's not
getting off on this." So, I will I'll put my hand on his butt. I'll put my hand on his wiener. Stop the bleeding cuz it's my friend. It's my friend. I want to survive. J, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Am I wrong, guys? Tell me I'm Tell me I'm wrong. I want one person to say I'm wrong and I'll end the stream and that'll be it. Okay. Just tell me I'm
wrong. Seems like thou doth protest too much. I know, J. I know you're straight. I know you're straight, J. I didn't mean to kick you off and stuff like that. I just Right. I'm sorry, guys. Maybe I'm wrong, guys. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I always I always say everything
wrong. No one likes me. Everyone here hates me. Everyone wants to hurt my channel. People just porn bomb me and bomb me, make fun of me. He left. Okay, I'm sorry, guys. I'm just gonna end the stream because he if J doesn't like me, I I don't like myself
anymore. But thank you guys for being here. I like you guys a lot. Thank you so much. He wants to say anything. I didn't even need to pee. I'll drink the rest of my beer. I have a little bit left. He said no. He said no. But I came in. I was dressed as Pamel Anderson. I was indecisive with Pamel Anderson. He would make me pull in my
pants, show me my genitals before I even gave a massage on his shoulders. Guys, is that kind of weird? Is that weird a little or am I am I just like I'm hallucinating? Cuz even men like there's bodybuilders, there's very straight men, they go down with their big old chest and they're like, you know, they're like, "Oh, they're like a
man to massage them." But Jay Dog, no. He's going to pull in their pants, take them to genitalia, make sure they're a real woman. Real woman, right? And then they can touch him, right? Am I wrong or am I right? Are we that homophobic in the society today? Are we that
homophobic? Are we that homophobic in the society? We can't even have a man touch our butt without feeling that we're gay, right? How about we can play around? We could we can laugh. As long you're not trying to penetrate me with my, you know, my eyes closed, be tied down to a bed and stuff
like that after you kidnap me, I'll say, "Hey, if my homie, my my best friend wants to tap me on the butt, it's not so gay. Am I right? Am I right or am I wrong, guys? Tell me I'm right or I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Clumsy, you shut up, Clumsy. Clumsy, I'm going to take your shaved eyebrows. I'm
going to lick them clean. I'm going to suck your dick until you come in my mouth 10 times and then you can tell me what to do. Okay,
Clumsy, I'm wrong, guys. No, go to Clumsy. Go hug clumsy, J dog dog. Go hug clumsy. It's your best friend. I'm not your best friend. I know. I mean nothing to you. You'll save my life. You would save my life, J. You would. Even Even if I got shot in the
butt cheek. You You need to stop the bleeding by putting your mouth on on the butt cheek for 10 seconds, right? And suck out the bullet and and hold it there until the ambulance got there. Would you do that? Would you do that for me or you just let me die? That's what I'm asking. I'm asking I'm asking how about the question. Okay, so nobody likes me anymore. You know,
everyone's trying to hurt my show. A few people that like me on the show, but you know, I'm going to leave in a few seconds if nobody likes me anymore. Let's just say you like me. You would save my life. Okay, thank you, J. That's all I want to know. I just want to know if you save my life.
But I'm sitting there about to pass, about to die of bleeding, stuff like that. You would save my life. Okay, that makes you feel better. You don't have to save my life. If you if you're like, "Oh, this is a gay guy. He might have this or that. He might have done too much crystal meth in his life. He might be a bad person. I'm
just going to let him pass, you know, un alive un alive on the corner." You can do that, too. I understand. Everyone's going to like me. All I want to know is you're going to save my life if I got shot in the butt. You put you maybe all you have to do is put your hand there. You have to take out the you got to take out the bullet with your teeth, but you have to
just put your hand there to stop the bleeding. Am I wrong, guys? Okay, I'm going to leave, guys. No one likes me anymore. I love you guys, though. Thank you so much.
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