Psyche hosts a live stream, discussing his issues with Streamyard pricing, personal drama with other content creators, and interacting with his chat participants.
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Psyche starts the live stream, greeting his chat participants, including Gotti, Gotham, and Queen Natalie. He discusses his issues with Streamyard pricing, which has increased to $45 a month, and his decision to use an alternative streaming service, Riverside, until he can negotiate a better deal with Streamyard ▶ 2:22. Psyche also shares his personal drama with other content creators, including Alexandra, who he claims has stopped talking to him after he said something she didn't like ▶ 5:03. He interacts with his chat participants, including Natalie, who offers to help him with his Streamyard issues ▶ 3:46. Psyche also talks about his past experiences, including working as an engineer for NASA ▶ 8:24.
The episode appears to focus on the challenges of being a content creator, including navigating platform issues and dealing with drama and negativity from others. Psyche's interactions with his chat participants suggest that he values their support and connection. The episode also touches on the theme of personal relationships and the difficulties of maintaining them in the public eye. Psyche's emotions and reactions to the situations he describes suggest that he is struggling to cope with the stress and negativity he is experiencing.
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Hi, Gotti. How are you? Thanks for coming by. Thank you.
I'm a little out of it today. Been sleeping a lot on a great day. How are you?
I'm okay because I got my McDonald's. Hey, Gotham. How are you? Oh, I'm so sore, too. Oh, hi. Yeah, I'm on the stupid Riverside thing because I only have seven minutes left on my StreamYard. So, sorry. We got to got to deal with this. Anyone's welcome to come up and
say hi. I don't know if I'm going to be on very long. I did get a drink and a coffee. Uh oh, I'm really sore. Um
yeah, Riverside is another streaming service and I got like two free months of it. RG, hey Lenor, I got two free months of it and Oh, sorry. Oh my god, Lenor, your butthole. So um so I have I don't know. I have two free months of it. So, I didn't reach that.
Streamard raises prices to like 45 a month. Uh, I was at 25 for several months on it. And so, until I get back to that 25 bucks a month or at least like, you know, I'm able to to negotiate that, then it's too expensive for me. But, hey, Lenor, Lenor, you showed too much. Excuse me. How are you guys doing? Yeah, anyone's welcome to come up. No, I
don't I don't know. Lenor, your your butt prolapsed. I don't know. Your butt looked kind of weird there. I think it was just the angle. That was just a weird angle, huh, Lenor? She looks like bloggers. Bloggers Lenor, she looks like you have bloggers Hi, Jojo. How are you? Hi.
Hey, Mo. Oh, it's Mojo Joe Juniper. Hey. Hey. What's up? Mhm. Yeah. How are you guys? yesterday. I mean, I haven't been streaming too often. It's like there's a lot of stuff going on. Um, yeah. I don't know if you guys been Oh, here we go. Queen Natalie, hi. >> Hello, Psyche. >> Hi. Good to see you. How are you
tonight? >> Yeah, I'm all right. Psyche, did you say you run out of stream? >> It's It's a shame I'm not streaming, he said. >> No. Did you say run out of Streamyard? >> Oh, yeah. A shame Streamyard. Yeah, maybe I'll be able to get it get it back. >> Yeah, I know. God, you're wrong.
>> I could help you out with that psyche if you want. >> Yeah, it's just expensive. It's I mean, if they raise the price to >> I I'm I'm paying for Streamyard and I get a free slot where I can add somebody to my Streamyard,
which means you'll get to go on. Maybe we can share someone I can share with someone. >> That's what I was saying. >> I'd be willing to do that. I mean, um, yeah, if somebody's willing to like, you know, >> I send you an invite. All I need is your email address. >> Okay, I can put it back. I don't >> email address. >> Thank you. Thank you. And I wouldn't
want to step on your toes. I would I would definitely never like stream at the same time you you were or anything like that. I'm streaming a lot less than any anytime anyway. And Gotti, I mean, Gotti, please. I mean, you don't need to tell me you go get a job, even if it might be true, Gotti, because, you know, um, you know, I made I made over a thousand dollars um on YouTube a couple months ago. Of course, it was all thanks to ghost, but um um you know, I've had
good months and bad months. I'm having a bad month now. Well, now it's just like, you know, everyone hates me. So, well, you know, I've always said that, but um you know, now now it seems like it's really true because even like people that once were nice to me, like Alexandra, um it's just like, you know, I'm evaporated. have evaporated from her existence, you know, just to use a word
that was used on her um by Beeta. Yeah. She um you know, and she uh won't even talk to me um would when actually hasn't talked to me since she since I said one thing that she didn't like and that was it. Just one thing. That's all it takes. And then it's like then all of a sudden from like a great person, I turned into
a monster. Um I turn >> Where's the private trap? I need your email. Yeah, I got you. Hold on one second. >> Email. >> I could add you to my Streamyard. >> Thank you. >> And then you can like >> Thank you. I can figure I know because it's hard to figure this out. Um let me see.
>> I was free, you know. >> Uh you're so sweet. Thank you so much. Um let me see. Um >> I've got a seat left. You see? >> Yeah. >> Email send an invitation. >> I think I have it. Okay. So, oh, now it says in Okay, studio chat. Okay, there I
see it backstage. Okay, I'm gonna go. Um, I think this will do it. Uh, let me see. I'm just like so out of it right now. We're getting everything. Okay, psyche. Okay, there it is. Um, okay. Got it. Okay.
Yeah. And that's like one nice thing is that I do have wonderful friends like Natalie and like you guys that are like here here saying hi supporting me and I appreciate that. Yeah. But yeah, Gotti, I don't need to hear it. Like I I know. I know. Okay. Don't get up. Yeah. Okay. I won't I don't I mean I haven't had one for I haven't had one for since 2008. And so
I've been surviving. So, and I just like, you know, it's like I hear that from everybody and it's like kind of like I know I if I need to, I will, you know, if I do if I do need to, but uh I'm not very good at um timing. I'm I'm very bad at like schedules. I'm very, you know, and then I'm very moody
and it's like I'm not I'm gonna start my drink. Cheers, Natalie. >> Okay. Where do I look for your email address? >> Back chat. It says private chat. If you go to the chat and then say private chat, I am a little bit touchy. I'm in a bad mood. I I am I've been really kind of hurt because,
you know, it's like not only does like nobody watch this the the content I'm putting on, but it's like it's I'm getting like um some people are just coming on putting negative like like ne negative and so it's like then it's not even promoted. So nobody sees it and it's just like it's hurting the algorithm because it's like the only stuff I'm putting out. So, um, but that's, you know, nothing you guys have to worry about. And I I'm sorry. I don't mean to be snappy at anybody. It's just
like, >> there you go. Sent you an invite. Thanks. >> Thank you. You're so sweet. And yeah, and and I'll have to like get like I'll give you my number, too. And I don't want to ever like step on your toes with it. Like, I don't want to accidentally when you want to stream like I'll I'll be I'll be happy to like, you know, step like make sure that you you have the full control of of the schedule and
everything. So, but thank you so much. Yeah. Since 2008, I um yeah, when I got fired from my last job working as a we actually were like um hired the engineers for for NASA like overseas and stuff like that. That was interesting job. So, yeah. Oh, Black RG sends me a hug. Oh, thank you so much. Well, it's good to see you guys though. I haven't
been on for a while. I mean, I was on last night for like seven minutes, but it was of course Sandman had the Bea and Alexandra thing on. I just went on in a called a bunch of turn coats and uh which they all are and beta so yesterday what happened with BEA is I just went into money420's chat and I said oh leave my name out of it because they were talking about jerking off and he's
talking about I can't shuffle cards blah blah blah I'm not they don't even know I'm there by the way and so then I was like well leave my name out of it and then everyone starts like oh then I think this guy named um what's his name Dr. Manhattan or something like that. He was like, "Oh, he's like he's such a This and this." And Dr. Manhattan is not a a mod in there, but I am. And so I I I timed him out for one minute.
Hey, Melissa. How are you? Yeah. Oh, no. It's okay. No, you're good, Melissa. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. I'm actually I'm doing better. I'm feeling better now. But yeah, so I called So Dr. Manhattan called me a and I'm a I'm a mod in the chat. So I'm like, "Okay, I turn down for one minute." Then who has to pipe in? Little Bea. Oh, why' you why' you um you call Christine? you said she had warts and
why are you I'm timing him out because he said that. And I'm like I'm like because I'm a I'm a mod. Go cry about it. And she goes, "Go cry about your BKG tattoo." And I was like, "It stands for Barry Kate Group." I said, "I love it." And then um and I then I said, "Go cry about your um your eye tags on your eyes that you're so insecure about, bitch."
That's all I had to say about that. So anyway, I know it is a cursed black argy because all of a sudden, how do I go from like I'm I'm great into like just what I say one thing she didn't like. What I when I say that she didn't like I said oh now you're turning against me I guess I said you were the only one that was keeping me on YouTube. That's all I said to her.
What? And then she's like what? She's like oh blah blah. I don't know. She's just being nasty to me. And it's like um u well they don't exist to her anymore anyway. So that's what I said about that's what I said to be and that was it and it's like and then then she's then of course she's on with Alex and um and uh who else last night and uh all these people that that because oh the whole thing with Alexandra is she was mad
because I talked to beer I was on beatas one night well she was talking to bea last night and she talked to Sam man she hates them it's like I'm not allowed to talk to anybody right so anyway yeah it's a new year same h gotty um anyway so Hello, Goty. >> So, anyway, yeah, I didn't mean to like, you know, I'm not trying to be be like mean, but it's like she she brings it
out of me because she didn't have to like say, "Oh, why are you doing this? Why are you doing that?" And then like blah blah blah. It's like it's like none of her business. Just shut the up, I mean, it's like God. I mean, it's like I was so nice to her. I kept trying to make up with her a million times. A million times. And it's like she he's trying to like, you know, go back on it. And it's like, so I don't even feel like being friendly with her anymore. It's like go to hell. I regret ever having met her.
Okay. I regret even even on beta. She was on Sam Man's last night with Bea. Bea was on the panel and and Alexander was on the panel. So they're all talking. So she's Alexander can go talk to anybody she wants and it doesn't mean they're best friends. But I can't talk to I can't go on to be show one night and argue with her or whatever. And it's like that. So I don't know. It's just it's I know. It seems petty. It seems stupid. I don't know. It's
upsetting to me because it's like what it's like she knows like the the thing that will most hurt me is just being abandoned and being like instead of like you know she'll talk to me she'll talk to Sam like she she supposedly hates them she won't talk to me. I'm like so hated that I'm not even like in the in the existence of of somebody that can have a conversation with her. Okay. And so um so that that's what me and so and since it's going to be like that it's going to be like that. It's fine. It's
like but you know what I mean I mean I had I never had a bad thing to say about her. I was I was on her team so hard for the for for months. It's like, you know, no matter like who said anything and it's like I said one little thing to her cuz I was feeling maybe insecure or or paranoid or something one day and it's like all of a sudden I'm the devil and again, right? And so RG I don't know. I mean, it's like
that's what I was kind of almost thinking like, you know, it's like Yeah. So, anyway, um, so that's that. And, uh, yeah, and I kind I'm kind of out of pot right now, so I'm a little bit like uh a little bit uh moody maybe, but you know, I had my birthday. I'm now I'm old. I'm 45 years old.
I uh, you know, it's like >> I'm 43. I am. >> Oh, good. You're younger. She b I know that was not nice, Gotty. She she banned you, but she doesn't ban DJ Electra. I mean, it's like she just picks and chooses who she wants to ban who she wants to ban that were associated with me. She's had I mean, so it doesn't make any sense. It's like there's no rhyme or reason to it.
And I'm not a person to be full control. Like Beetle wanted control over me too. And what does Bea like be what are you like trying to tell Money420 how to run his channel? Like if he doesn't want me to to um to time somebody up for 60 seconds, he can tell me himself, right? I don't need to hear from Miss Bea, right? Like, you're not the queen of of of Streamyard or YouTube, Okay. I
mean, Jesus Christ. I was so done with it. People were so bean. I know people warn me. I know people warn me, but it was like it was there was nothing negative until I had some I I had a a little question then all of a sudden that that I was I was But yeah, people
did warn me. I know. I didn't want to believe it. because like Yeah. Well, Gotti, who do you think that is? Are you trying to say that about me? Because I don't, you know, I I don't appreciate it. And it's like, and I've had enough. And uh I don't know what you're talking about, like who who you're referring to. Uh they don't know
when people Yeah, I know. I know. Um I mean, I And I'm not a mean person. Like it's like I get I get this side of my personality pulled out where it's like I turn into an But it's like it's seriously it has to be pulled out of me and it's and it's a mirror. It's it's it turns into a mirror for people because it's like I'll just go back. I'll just give them back what
they gave me. Nobody likes it. No, you know, it's like and people don't realize it's like I don't I don't start with people. I'm nice to people. I really am. Yeah. Everyone learns on their own, right? And I have to experience it too. But also like at that time like she was like the only person that was saying hey you know you're not a bad person you know you know she she saw something in me but it's like I guess she didn't she
had her own agenda about me or whatever and that's okay that's okay but yeah not Alex. Yeah I know I mean you see you see goddy how sensitive I am. It's like I'm just turned into like a little a little you know little flower you know how upset I get. You know that's Miss Lenor. What are you doing? Did she show your butthole to everybody? She did. She did.
Oh, and here's Rudy. Rudy's here right here, too. Want to say hi to Rudy? Rudy's been sleeping with >> Rudy. >> Oh, you want to see Rudy? Oh, there he is. >> Oh, my son wants a cat, Psyche. I'm about a kitten. >> Are you gonna Are you going to get one? >> I might get a kitten. Yeah.
>> Oh, that's so sweet. Oh, that'd be awesome. Do do you uh do you have a do you have a a lead or do you know where you're gonna what you're going to get? >> I've got to ask my husband first and then see if he wants >> a lot of men are allergic to cats. I found out but I'm allergic to cats by the way. And if you guys like you know if you're kind of shocked by that I
know. Yeah. Um, >> ask my husband because he's he'll be the one who has to take it to vets when he needs vets. >> Because he goes outside a lot more than me. >> Yeah. And vets the vet is very pricey, you know. >> I have a bit of Do you know agrophobia? >> Agraph. So you're afraid of going out to
open spaces like wide open spaces or agorophobia. Is that it? Yeah. >> Yes. I don't like going out by myself. I'm the same way. Well, it's like kind of like, you know, when you're like you go to like the mall, if it just opens and all the stores just have the the employee inside, I can never like be the
only person in the store. It feels like too much attention on me, you know? So, uh >> the quiet stores, I don't like the busy ones. >> You like quiet stores? Well, I just don't like to be I just don't like to be focused on by the by the by the salespeople. Like, >> you know what? You know where I love going? Charity shops.
>> Charity shops. Are those like the the We have here we have like the Salvation Army. We have um we have um the Goodwill. Talking like that. >> I love going to those shops. I like to find treasures. >> Yeah. Yeah. There's actually Red Roondo Beach is great for like little antique stores. We've got some great antique
stores here. We have a bunch of Goodwills and uh have some good shopping here. >> Old furniture. I love old furniture. >> Yeah. Hey, Gotham. How are you doing? Yeah. Well, Blackard, you know, I do wish her the best. I mean, it's like I I don't hate her, you know? It's like I I love her. It's like that's the point. It's like I I didn't want to like to end
like this, but um >> old furniture is more sturdy and it's felt better. I'm wrong. >> Everything's made of IKEA nowadays, which is just like you drop something on it, it all breaks. Yeah. I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm in like kind of a mood today. Um I did just wake up a little bit.
>> I get a little but you know what? I think I look I look okay. My hair is all messy and and long and uh I know Ghost called me earlier, but I missed his call. But maybe Ghost will be around later and he always likes to search it up and uh >> some guy was bullying me once and I wished him testicle cancer cancer on him. Well, you
know, it's like you know some people mean like that's I mean really it's like when you get attacked like that's like the instinct is to like attack back and it's like and sometimes we feel powerless and it's like that's when >> she didn't fall. You can't help me. >> I just don't want it to change me. I don't want it to like so I' I've always been had a loving heart and it's like I don't want to lose that and if I feel
like I'm losing it at all like I'm losing it then it's like I'm not going to feel like really subjecting myself to more negativity because I don't want to lose that part of myself and I don't want to change based on all this but it's hard it's hard sometimes there's so much bullying that goes along with this like you know >> people break your heart too much it
hardens your heart >> right it does harden your hurt and it's like I was talking to a friend of mine today and she's like she's like you know some of these people have such thick skin and it's like and then our skin is getting thicker but but still it's not easy it's hard it's uh especially for people that are empaths like I am and I really am an empath whereas like and if
you don't know what empath is um anybody in the chat is empath is somebody that is very sensitive to the emotions of other people whereas I feel the emotion I can feel how they feel you know Um, and a lot of people have this. I mean, I think we all have it as a human being. Some people have it better more than others, but I'm very strong with that. Yeah, I'll take some vitamin C, vitamin
B12. I need a multivitamin. I should have got a multi I almost got one when I had my Whole Foods gift card. >> Even saints in the Bible got angry and, you know, killed people. >> It's true. I'm thinking about um who was it? Everybody's buttons can be pressed. Psych.
>> Who? Who we look who went live? We know you've been in Emma's chat under all during my I have not I don't even know. I barely even know that bitch's name anymore. Emma who? That's what I'm going to say. Emma. I'm not in that bitch's chat. She's not interesting. She's not even a good tarot reader. Okay. Like she really isn't. She just started if you didn't notice by the way on her show. I mean it's like but anyway that's fine.
She has big boobs. You know, good for her. Whatever. Go to hell, Fred. Go yourself. >> I don't really believe in hell. >> You don't believe in hell? Well, I believe we can create our own heaven and hell. Our mind our mind is it own. >> We're already there. This is hell. >> Yeah. This is as close to hell as it can get, but it can also be heaven in a
certain way, you know? It's like there's there can be good good blissful parts of this experience and there's really shitty terrible parts. Oh, Fred. Here. Can I How do we How do we mods? Get him out of here. Can you just um hide him, please? I want I want to Yeah. And Fred, go yourself, okay? And go
to hell with Emma and go lick her butthole. Okay. Go to hell. I never want to see you again, you idiot. Go die. >> Tarot cards. >> I don't do it anymore. >> I got my first deck when I was eight years old. I I will, Gotti. I will
definitely. Hold on. Let me find my tablet. Yeah, Gotti. Gotti gets the wrench um tonight because cuz uh he's earned it. Okay. You're out of here, Frederick. Go go go lick some succubus ass.
And that's what I get. And also, what what what do I get accused of? like um you know like oh I'm I'm draining people like oh that's what um Alexander said oh she she talked to Emma she talked to Emma and um you know what Emma said to her oh as soon as I disconnected from him I got all this energy and I I stopped being sick oh really you I
mean it's like um Emma you are a succubus that's what you do that's what you do is all you do is drain energy from people and you're proud of it I mean it's like what are you talking about that seems harsh I'm a little cle if you But once you run your own show, you can make those decisions for yourself. Okay? But I this is my show. So you know what it means? I'm the boss here. So I get to decide who stays and
who goes. Oh, Dr. Rigger. Who stop channeling the sinister energy? Oh my gosh, I'm so sinister. I'm so bad. You guys, you live a day in my shoes. Live a day in my shoes. >> Have you ever had any funny dreams? >> Do I have funny dreams? Oh my gosh, I had the craziest dream last night and it
was about this a there was this really hot Asian lady at this gas station and this family this Asian family had they had this gas station but then they lost the gas station. So it was their like last day of running it and I was this guy and there was these monsters and everything. It was really strange. I Yeah, I'm salty. I'm salty. When did I become a vampire? I don't know. That's what Well, that's what Alexandra said.
She said that um you know Emma Levi said that she was being drained by me. Have you ever heard of someone draining a succubus? I've never heard of that in my life, but apparently I'm like this powerful, you know, gay succubus or something, right? I got bit by the honesty bug. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh, you want some honesty, guys? Yeah. Get ready for it. You know, I'm I'm >> question. I hope you don't get offended. >> Hold on one second. I'm getting a phone
call. Hold on. Hold on one second.
>>
>> Okay. Sorry about that. We have a guest coming in a few minutes. >> Could I ask you >> Could I ask you a personal question? >> Sure. >> Uh, when did you find out you was gay? Well, let me see. Like I've I think I I pretty much figured that out once I was like, you know, pretty young. Like I
would say probably 12 years old, 13 years old. Like once you start feeling attraction, but I probably showed the signs earlier than that to uh to people, right? And so but then I think my mom asked me, yeah, Tyler know. Oh yeah, it's ghost the link. Okay, here we go. Hold on. Um, >> hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah, actually I'm having a good night
now. Now I'm having a good night. I have Natalie here. I have Gotti. I have uh I have some friends here. So, okay. And all all you guys in the chat. I love you guys. Let me see. Um um let me see. Invite. Share my link. Okay. I'm just slow. I'm slow a little bit slow on this Streamyard or this uh
>> Do you believe there's gay angels? >> Gay. Well, angels um always as I I've been presented with them have always been kind of androgynous. Like they they uh they've had they kind of like they're not they don't have a sex because they're not like male or female. They're not a human being. So they don't have a gender necessarily.
Uh no I wasn't. I wasn't traumatized. I I really was not traumatized as a youth. I had a very like loving I wasn't beaten. I wasn't anything. I I I was just you know I just turned out this way. I don't know why. It's a misp. >> I wasn't. I Someone says someone thought in the chat thought I was, but no, I wasn't. I really wasn't. I mean, I I really was not. I was always always uh
protected and you know, and I I'm very sorry that anybody um does have trauma that leads to like this stuff in their life or it is okay to be gay, I think. And then somebody in my chat last night, I think that's when I ended it. I was only on for a few minutes. They were like, oh, they're like they're like never be gay. Who was it that said that? It was um I I don't know. I don't remember who it was, but yeah, somebody said that. It just It just bothered me. It just
bothered me. You don't want to know. Okay. I I don't push my sexuality on people, you know? Well, it's like maybe people will disagree because I like on >> gay people believe in Jesus. >> Yeah. Some people think Jesus was gay. You know, there's there's there's there's thoughts about Jesus's sexuality and things like that. Um I think at least he would have been accepting of people. I don't think he would have been like, "Oh, go stone the person." Because
he wasn't like that about anybody. He was always about like um forgiveness and acceptance I think in a lot of ways. Right. And got says gay is who you what you do not who you are. Right. But that I'm not gay because I don't do anything. I mean it's like I don't even like I bar I I have no I have no active sex life. I
I like I said I haven't had sex in like over like two years probably. And that's just by choice because if you don't know like gay people can have sex pretty easily. All you have to do is blow grinder. I could go on it tonight. I could have like three day three guys coming over if I wanted. See, I don't I don't like that. I don't like that kind of stuff. Gotham loves women. It's okay. I know Gotham. I know Goth is a very
good-look opinion about I know it's a bit a bit um I don't know what the word is. >> Controversial. >> Yes. What do you think about >> trans transgender? >> Transgender. Um,
>> do you think >> do you think people should be allowed hormone replacements when they're under 18 or do you think it should be over 18? >> That's such a hard question. It's because there's something called like um like in transgenders there's something called passing which is like one of the most important things for them. They they need to pass as that sex they so
and it's like when you start the hormones too late and you've already gone through the full puberty and you have like the masculine features and so so when you do start younger you are passable as long but then it's like I don't know when people would really know 100% until they're 18 but some people do. I think there's but it's like I think it has to be like a family decision. Um
>> what if like the parents force it on the kids though? >> Yeah. I mean they should that should never happen, right? The parents forcing it. That would be a nightmare. But I don't think that mean it's like a common thing for for parents to want to force it unless they're like super super >> You got some parents who are saying their two-year-old wants to be transgender. >> Yeah. That's not that's like riding
their agenda. It might be a political agenda. That's like, you know, at two years old, how would you know anything? Like the child doesn't even know if it likes, you know, chocolate milk or reg. I mean, it's like what what Hey, Ghost. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't take your call, but I put the link down. Ghost or call again. I'm I'm sorry I missed. >> Thank you for having this conversation
so calmly as well. Thank you. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't people get very upset and in their emotions about it, but I think it's like, you know, I I do think it's like basically it's a very serious thing. Like there's Jazz Jennings, she's a famous person. She was on Oprah, I think at five years old on Oprah as a as a female like and then but
then the parents, if you look into the parents, they are very um political about it and they're very like, "Oh, let's put our daughters the first trans." And they want this attention about it, right? And it seems like, okay, well, was this was this 100% that person's doing or was kind of like, you know, how parents can kind of have a big influence on on uh
>> Yeah. >> So, I'm intrigued about these questions because I'm I'm interested in psychology, you know. >> Oh, yeah. Me, too. I'm very interested in psychology. >> You couldn't join the link? I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. It's like you have to um join download the app or something. I'm sorry. I know. I know. It sucks. Natalie Natalie did let me use her StreamYard.
So maybe maybe I'll I'll switch over if if it's too hard. But yeah, I think that >> we'll do this person, but I know a person who had a sex change, right? >> Yeah. >> He grew up in a care home. He was abused by males
and he became female. And I wondered, was that his choice or was that because he was ashamed of being a man because he was abused? >> Those are good questions. Those are great questions. And it's like, you know basically basically Jerry Spear. Hey, Ziggy. How's how you doing? I miss you, Ziggy. Um,
>> I'm I'm dead into psychology. I'm into religion and everything, you know. >> Yeah. I mean, it's great questions and I think that they're questions that we need to be asking and like having conversations about, but people get very emotional. Um, and then when you get emotional, you get out of your logic, right? And so we're so they're not being logical. They throw religion into it. They they throw right and wrong and blah
blah blah and all these moral things into it instead of just what and so but do they have this in other countries? Like really do they have like, you know, transgender 5-year-old? I don't think they they really do. And it's like it's not even a question really, right? But then they they do have regular transgenders, you know, in Iran they allow you to do gay marriage basically, but one of one of the people has to get
a sex change like they so you know that but they so they're very like open about sex changes and stuff like that in Iran. Isn't that crazy? Like um but um >> I don't like street preachers. I I can't stand them right psyche. I think what they're doing is
pushing gay people away from Jesus, you know. >> One second. I'm gonna just take the call real quick. One second. >> You know, like you got these street preachers who go to like gay bride and all that and then they hold these horrible black hords. I believe like the wolves in sheep's
clothing. Do you get me guys?
I don't know. Is it is anyone else having problems joining the link? Because it's like it seems like the link it might be like >> I mean me myself I've been by curious >> and and I I have I have like wanted to
be a boy when I was younger but now I like feminine and I like being a girl woman. So, I don't know. That's what I'm thinking. Do you think people need
to have therapy before they go through? >> Well, yeah. And I mean, I think you do have to have um two signed letters from psychiatrist before you have a sex change, I think, or before you even start. >> Canada's on about getting rid of that, you know. >> Canada is >> Yeah, they're on about getting rid of it. like giving hormone replacements
when they're at school and you're not allowed to question them. You're not allowed to, you know, and it's it's like I don't know what would you say about Okay, so fix the link. H um I would say that
>> I think I think >> I like being a man, right? decision and you've got to know that you're sure because and you do need to have therapy first to make sure you don't do something that you regret rest of your life, >> right? But then also when you have the when you do that, it also kind of puts you as like a crazy person. I mean, it's
like then you I mean, then it's like it kind of diagnoses you as something like it like not a crazy person necessarily, but it's like it will say there's something mentally other people can point to point and say point that and say, "Oh, there's something mentally wrong with that person because the psychiatrist signs off on it and stuff." Or it just seems like it can be
>> gives the world to say what's crazy, though. You know, it's like for example, don't you think the Pope's a bit crazy? >> The Pope. >> I mean, like he thinks he's a holy man and he's standing on a platform >> waving, but he's crazy. But then look at
all the people that are that are um confirming it, right? That or the people that that will agree that will say, "Oh, that's true." and and having all those people believe it as well can be kind of like mentally >> it's like everybody thinks like Trump is the next Jesus Christ, you know? >> Oh yeah. Well, that's ridiculous. I mean
that I mean it gets it gets to a ridiculous Yeah. I mean it's like >> more likely to be the devil, right? Jesus right? >> Just because these Bible bashes, I call them Bible bashes. I read the Bible, but I don't go saying, "Oh, you're going to hell, blah, blah, blah." You know,
but like I I get arguments. Do you know Do you know who Dory Love is? >> Can you say it again? Dorian. Dory. Hold on. >> Dory Love. >> No. Dor Dorian Love. Okay. I'm not sure.
>> Dor Love. Gorilla >> is a street preacher and he goes around interrupting gay pride parades telling them that they're wicked and they're going to hell and blah blah blah
and he's teaching a he's cheat he's teaching for lies you know. >> Yeah the sister tricks. Hey Trixs, you see Trixs? >> Hello Trixs. Like it says you're not supposed to say in your heart who goes to heaven or whatever.
>> I know. It's like people Oh, yeah. People that think that they they're right that they know like like nobody really knows. >> I got kicked out many Christian communities because I question them psyche. >> Yeah. that says you say that we go to hell or heaven when we die, but why does the Bible say that we sleep?
>> Yeah, I know. >> And as for street creatures, I mean, it's like um some of them some of them do make sense, but yeah, some of them are just crazy, right? The Oh, hold on. Ziggy, stop it. Um yeah, I uh Why somebody called Ziko calling me a blob?
>> I know. He's like, "What? Can you someone delete that comment? That is just so rude." >> Thank you. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry. >> That is a demon. Back demon. Get out. >> He's a demon. I know he's a he's a Satanist for sure. >> I'm not even being horrible. Ziggle, >> I'm gonna try to put the link up one
more time here. Invite people. Copy the link. Okay, the link is copied. paste. >> I get attacked a lot. Psyche. My trolls. >> You get attacked. I do. Oh, I do too. >> I don't care if they call me a blob. I think I'm beautiful. You >> are beautiful. And it's like Yeah. And people are people just say rude things
to get a rise out of people. I know. But it's like Yeah. I've been called this most disgusting things like like I'm basically like, you know, and people believe it. That's the thing. It's like, you know, they believe everything. I'm I'm this like animal abusing like dirty um like just grifter um you know, it's
like the like the word basically just like Satan basically. Yeah. But Ziggy, you're not supposed to like be insulting of people. Okay. It's like how about like you be be civil. Okay. At least especially if I have a guest on the panel. You don't you don't want to want to be mean to the guests, you know? It's like I I wanna Here I'm gonna show you tricks here. This is tricks in my lap. Hi. You're my little Trixie. Oh, you're
my little Trixie. Oh, >> what does Jazz mean? >> Yeah, he's just a He's just You never altered your genitals. You're not confused. Well, I didn't alter my genitals either. I'm not confused either. But you know what? In another life, you know, I was just trying to analyze. >> Yeah. >> Because I'm into psychology, you know.
>> Yeah. Yeah. People can be cruel. I mean, let's You know what? It's like Especially Especially here. I want it to be a place, like I said, or like I've said, it's like I I I do relate to like people that are outcasted, people that are bullied, people that are vilified, and and I I want those people here, right? I want Yeah, I know. It's I know. I don't have the YouTube link. Um um
Ghost, I don't I'm on I'm on Riverside right now. It's like you have to like click on the Riverside link, then you have to download the app, I think, maybe. I'm not sure exactly how it works. Um, but I'm sorry if it doesn't work out tonight. I I I I'll have to get like I don't I can't afford right now to get the rivers or to get a streamyard, but and I'm out of the minutes and that's
why I'm on here tonight. Okay. So, >> hey, I think you'd like ping pendulum the pub. Do you like going out to the pub Psyche? >> Oh, well, it was a little bit expensive, but I do like I like I like to go out for a drink. I have a sports bar across the street from me. >> Have you ever been to England? >> Yeah, I've been to England. I went to I went to Manchester and then I was on
Canal Street in Manchester. >> Yeah. >> So, I've been to Canal Street. If you don't know, guys, it's like the gay district of Manchester and uh Yeah. Riverside sucks, but you know, it's like I I know it's uh Yeah. But yeah. So, Ziggy, do you want to like help me out? anyone want to help out with donations so I can like buy buy a month
subscription to to Streamyard or else it's like, you know, and I know it's better, but I have this for free and I don't have money to buy StreamYard right now. So, it's gonna it's the best I can do. Okay. So, I apologize if it sucks, but it's the best I can do right now. Okay. Um I'm It's not easy right now.
>> I swear to God I will not do anything. You're welcome to use my stream if you Okay. Do do you want to try Do you want me to try that right now? I'm gonna end the show and then I'm gonna go on and see if I can get on the Natalie Streamyard and then we can do a Streamyard. Streamyard so we can have Ghost on. Is that okay, Natalie? >> Yeah. >> Okay, we're gonna try right now. I'm
gonna go look at my my thing and I'll I'll get signed up for it. Okay. >> You'll be able to get 10 people up. >> Okay. >> Hey, awesome. >> You can make some backgrounds and stuff if you want as well. I've got my background. You can make yourself a folder or something and put your backgrounds in your folder. >> Okay, guys. So, come right back. Okay, I'll I'll be I'll be right back.
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