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Psyche hosts a surprise late-night open panel stream discussing tarot and cats, sharing his evening and interactions on a Discord server where he got kicked out.
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Psyche started the stream after being kicked out of a Discord server ▶ 2:04 where he had an argument with a mod ▶ 2:18. He mentioned he was in a good mood despite the earlier events and wanted to chat with friendly people ▶ 5:09. Psyche discussed his cats, Trix and Rudy ▶ 6:03, and thanked a channel owner, LC, for letting him promote his show on his panel ▶ 4:36. He also talked about his internet issues ▶ 1:11 and a scheduled visit from a cable technician ▶ 5:43. During the stream, Psyche did tarot readings for some viewers ▶ 3:43 and socialized with his audience, including appointing a new moderator ▶ 7:06 and chatting with regulars like He-Man ▶ 8:37.
The episode appears to focus on casual, late-night conversations and community building, with Psyche expressing his desire for respectful and fun interactions. It suggests a pattern of Psyche engaging with his audience in an informal setting, using these opportunities to deepen connections with his viewers and provide them with tarot readings and advice. The stream also touches on themes of online community dynamics and the challenges of moderation, as Psyche reflects on his experiences in different Discord servers and his approach to managing his own community.
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hello yeah like I said yesterday today I uh I went on for uh I slept until 10 p.m. so I was on for a couple hours like I said I have no data on my phone my internet's not working I just have a couple megabytes left or maybe three so didn't take up too many last time it took about a half
a megabyte so I thought I'd come back and say hi to you guys um just uh just chat and then I'll I was I cleaned up a little bit I still got my cards cards ready to go um anything you guys want to do or chat about yeah the whole thing last night was I was this Discord server and I was like I can't sleep either and I already done several hours of my show
so I was like I want to chat with somebody and so I posted my phone number and I said go ahead and call me oh my gosh and then everyone's like oh this guy you know I was very controversial in the Stream last night um Discord server last night and uh you know p uh pie join me on this Discord
server and she had my back there but there's just one crybaby there that was just whining about me like saying oh this the server is changing the server is changing these are new people what's going on they're weird you know we are nice people and we we were we were not well I was disrespectful to one of the mods because one of the mods was like oh ever since he and Pie came to this
Discord server everything's different and I was like it shut up and then he timed me up for for 10 minutes and then uh and then he's like oh one more time and you're out of here and I don't know I just was commenting on the server and stuff and like I was not disrespectful anymore but this morning I woke up I was kicked off and I'm still kind of um irritated about it CU I don't think that
that server owner kicked me off I think it just his overzealous mods and that happens in a lot of chats that's why I uh I always ask my mods like not to really um hide anybody like I I'll hide people but you know people are disrespectful and stuff like that you can time them out and stuff whatever ever length you want to you can time up for like a a day or so I think is the
maximum I'm here with tricks I'm here with the Rudy just came out got the heater going it's a nice little 2:30 2:28 in the morning for me uh but yeah sometimes I like to have people to talk to and uh so maybe maybe I wasn't supposed to share my phone number or something like that I'm not really afraid of sharing my phone number or anybody calling me but uh yeah I should
have kept it on Discord I should have like follow the server rules whatever but I don't know when people like start attacking me and stuff like that in the server and like are like kick this person off kick this person off I get kind of defensive against against them and Stu but yeah so I hope you guys are having a good night I'll do readings for anybody I'd like to have people in the chat say hi and stuff but yeah I
understand it's like it's going to be like a little bit of a smaller stream I'll probably just do an hour stream and see what happens last night last night and I'm sober tonight I'm so I'm completely sober I drinking his milk today so I'm in a good uh better state of mind I'm in a good mood hey are you saying hi to everybody trick says are here saying hello want to come say hi I
was on this panel tonight um I want to thank his name is LC I'll try to find oh thank you CA I will try to find uh I'll try to find uh that guy's Channel and promote his channel he does he is um beer clock and so I mean he's in Australia and he has kind of wild open panels I used to go last year and then I had some personal things going on I
stopped going to his panel but um I came back tonight he was real friendly he let me promote my show I really appreciate that um his name is LC if uh I'll try to look up I just can't um I can't really go to my YouTube and stuff tonight um or or my my tablet so I can't pin my link or anything you're saying
hi on DXs come on over here want say hi to the chat but I'm awake and I was like trying to go to sleep I think seea for letting everyone know yeah I know it's kind of late guys but you know I was just in a kind of a good mood um and sometimes I just do like to have a chat with people and especially like friendly people like
uh didn't quite work out in that that other Discord server that I got kicked out of this morning but on my Discord server there's great people um and uh unless you cause a lot of problems you won't be kicked out you know I have a very high tolerance for people as long as everyone's respectful same with my panel with my mods and stuff like that I like uh want have a fun respectful show
how are you doing baby but I cleaned up a little bit and then I like laid down try to close my eyes I woke up at 10 and 10 at night tonight and so then I have um a cable guy coming at noon you're you're here on my shoulder what's up Jamie how are you here on my shoulder and he was cuddling up he was
ready to he was ready to go to bed with me but um you slept with me all day you know cats sleep 18 18 to 20 hours a day I think C sleep Rudy's over there Rudy you want to come say hi Rudy Rudy's looking pretty good he's having a good good time here hi got Trix is just meowing and crawling
on me right now um yeah but yeah and we got a nice nice little um uh number of people in here for five uh for 2:30 in the morning for me and some of you don't sleep very much you know I I I've been for the past week I've probably going to bed at like 6:00 or 7 in the morning and then sleeping sometimes till noon
sometimes I'm awake after that and sometimes I just take another afternoon nap today I was just in a kind of a bad mood and the cable was out and I didn't have stuff to really listen to you know and so I just uh I said new mod for ocean today okay Ocean's coming in here like I need I can't um I can't mod people
tonight I don't think because I uh I don't have access to my tablet um internet right now and so I can't I can't go on to it but I will I will mod that person just remind me and I will for sure give that person a mod because if you recommend her I'm sure she's good let me just fix my camera so I have a full screen right
here better that's just my fingers guys okay that better okay yeah uh I don't know would you guys prefer you prefer the vertical streaming or the full screen kind of like this oh she modded you okay you're oh congratulations you're a new mod well I know you're a great mod she's lucky to have you you know this Co thing about my mods my my mods are they're just cool you know it's
like they're not going to like um kick you out a chat just because you're new and just because you're different and stuff like that thank you yeah so I appreciate uh I appreciate you guys always um being here supporting me I know um I know clumsy was here earlier tonight we had chis this woman Christina came in and uh she's in the chat a lot
and she uh she she got a reading there was another guy I met in a panel coming in the chat um just real good people here you see Lenor you heard Lenor Lenor here Len's right sitting right here L's over here you you see her in the background or something oh yeah see lik l
Hold she'll say hi she'll say hi hi a little crusty in your eye good girl this we oh and then Rudy's walking around saying hi hi everybody what's up He-Man
you oh yeah he-man's here hey what's up what's up He-Man yeah like I used to I used to um mod well I'm I'm a mod in many many chats but I used to have a few chats I really like to mod for and I unfortunately maybe screwed things up in them and or maybe I did not fit the fit
the uh the hosts idea idea of a perfect mod you know I was like I was always I thought the cool mod that that we get sometimes a little bit wild but yeah late at night sometimes I'm drinking a little bit nice to see you he man late at night sometimes I'm drinking I'm not drinking tonight I'm totally sober tonight and so uh probably will be
totally sober tomorrow and uh but you know I uh I'm able to get some alcohol on Wednesday from a from a GrubHub so I like these Bo range Iced Teas that I started drinking but you know I also I haven't I used to drink Vodka like I was drinking like I get a bottle of vodka
and then I would drink like with orange juice I would pour yeah it's good to take breaks definitely I almost took a break last night but we were having a fun panel and it was Super Bowl Sunday even though I don't watch the Super Bowl I was uh I was uh yeah I was H having a little bit of fun I I predicted the Super Bowl um winner by the way think I asked to to for prediction like and it was just my
prediction I just like I explained a few times like I just predict on like how cute the team's name is and color of their pants and things so um so my guess was um yeah and I just call it a guess it was uh Eagles and it was under 50 and they Eagles um won and they got scored 40 right so I would I would have won if I would have put some money down right
but uh yeah that would have been nice to have some Super Bowl money today but U it's okay I'm not a big Gambler I I have a brother that like likeed to gamble a lot and he had rooms comped and it was fun here yeah I had fun we had ba in here and we had uh we had Nick Johnson in here and other friends stopped by and
Comfortably Numb came and said hi really good to see her and uh yeah fortunately my internet was working yesterday and today it just didn't work all day so I called the company and um they're sending a technician today at noon so I'll probably just stay awake until noon today um and I'll use my probably
use my uh my data today till the till the wheels fall off of my data but yeah and I had an earlier stream um oh the earlier stream tonight too and this the great people um came on I just had a couple guests on the panel good people to chat with always like to chat with people and meet new people and uh so I'll have an open Panel I'll see what happens you know I I go on to open panels tonight I went to open Panel I
just at all my name was was psyche awaken but the guy knew me from another panel he said he said no tarot readings tonight said this guy's Australia no terrot read they're like no Terror I'm like okay I understand like not everyone not everyone's in the tarot and like sometimes it's like when I come in everyone's like I want a reading I want a reading I want a reading and then it's like so maybe it's taking away from the uh topic of the show but I do appreciate when people like um let me do some like
mini reads I just do short really fast mini reads on their chats um and this like just like I kind of do on here I like to keep it going fast and everyone to be able to get um their get their cards and stuff like that so um but I do do personal readings too um you can I'm looking up on Discord um and pyi awakens if someone can post a Discord that'd be
awesome um because I like to grow the Discord and we have a good Discord I think I'm gonna make my I'm gonna make my Discord more fun than that guy I kicked out up that's my goal his was was a pretty well laid out Discord it just had a few channels it had a music channel had a Food Channel it had another Channel a little bit of an adult Channel and then I had a a chat and the chat was very active but they just
didn't get me you know and some you know what life is like that sometimes some sometimes you'll go to places you'll like and you think it's cool and then um you won't Vibe with the people there I was vibing with some people but some people were like um insisting that I'd be kicked out and thinking I was um changing changing things or something like I I don't know but uh but I I was this morning I woke up and was
disappointed to see I was kicked out and that and another server I like too maybe because I was promoting and stuff like that um I do like to go and like servers where my friends are and stuff and like say hey I'm on live right now if you guys want to come come in it's not trying to like compete with anybody else that's the thing about competing there's so many YouTube channels out I mean people can go to any channel I mean people if you're get bored here you know
go to another Channel like that I prefer you go to a channel that uh that uh with somebody of somebody in here somebody that comes in here that I like but you're free to do whatever you want you know it's like it's not really like trying to piggyback up them but if people want to promote on my channel I have promotion um promotion channel on mine you're welcome to post anything there share your channel share your
friends Channel um share open panels you're on like it's a it's basically a very Liberal Liberal policy I have I just you know I just need people to be respectful to each other on my Discord I don't I don't we've had issues with uh just drama and stuff on my Discord and stuff like that um before but I think we've kind of Taken taking a lot that
was actually my old server now I have a lot cooler server yeah ca ca designed it for me basically let me test it out um beforehand and it's just so awesome I love it um we have cool um cool um different things in there we haven't had a movie night in a while we were having movie nights and stuff I now I I wanted
to to make sure like the movie night is perfect because we had a few uh technical difficulties in the last one yeah it is all entertainment it's yeah it's basically you know and also I want people to people to meet each other and like I like to know a lot of people and stuff yeah so let's do a movie night always thinking of these of these movies that I like oh that'll be a good movie
night you know but uh I can't I just can't remember some right now thinking maybe we'll do another Muppet movie we did Follow That Bird then we had a blast doing that um we had to find alvir at night but unfortunately it it kind of like um in the middle of the movie it timed out for 10 minutes and then you know we just started
chatting and so that's fun too but we have uh we have fun voice chats um really good people you'll see Jamie there um you'll see you'll see CA there you'll see me there I I it's kind of like slowed down a little bit but um you know I know people are a lot of get on a lot of servers and are busy with other servers and all kinds of stuff and so
it's like but I do like like to always when people check in and just say what's up I I share some stuff yeah so let me just get I I almost out tobacco tonight unfortunately I had a bunch of a bunch of butts um that I was putting in the pipe and now I'm just scraping it off
the table but I need to clean the table up anyway for for uh make sure the cable guy has a clean house to go to but I have enough tobacco for the rest of the show so yeah we're doing good anyone want the card has a suggestion um or let's to chat about anything because this is what's fun it's
fun to chat with people and I'm just like you know I used to be like a very social anxiety person and I had a certain group of friends that were not always very nice to me and uh kind of like traumatized me a little bit and and after that I I was not talking to anybody for a while except my family and then I was slowly started doing YouTube
chats slowly but I wouldn't even in YouTube chats I didn't even talk in them for okay I didn't even talk in YouTube chats for a while I was a little bit shy I just put a penny in my pipe that's so funny um I was a little bit shy and a little bit scar I wasn't I was in some um panels I just but I just couldn't or um
I just couldn't stop uh couldn't resist chatting after a while soon I started chatting Then I then I couldn't shut up right you're she sleeping so you're here okay good
and now I do panels I I have to say my self-confidence has gone pretty high like my self-confidence from before I was like you know my first videos if you watch on the channel the psyche and and arrow psyche and Cupid story and the first couple videos I was not even showing my face I was just on the on the rocks of the beach just talking telling
the story and stuff getting my channel started um Benny Blanco um helped me out um promoting my Channel at first I think he's uh he's seeing I'm kind of growing a little bit you might have anxiety watch those Auto debate channels Yeah well yeah some of the some of the channels are not you know that some of the channels you know people everyone's
kind of drunk and having fun and like and I like that too but sometimes when they're talk over each other I was on a panel tonight the LC Channel and he was happy to have me on and he was happy to bring me up um but they just had people talking talking talking and I really wasn't able to say anything and I'm kind of like trying to say data so I was like
I'll just uh rather just go over here and um and you know use my data on this channel my limited amount of data that I have left I'll use it here and if anyone wants to talk and chat it's good because last night I was in the guy I was ining this guy the Discord and I was like I just want to chat with somebody and I it wasn't like you know I didn't want to like do sexy talk or whatever like a
phone sucks or whatever maybe would have gotten to that but uh but I was just I was just basically I just wanted to talk and I because I already I was now I'm a chatter box a little bit you can tell I talk about a lot of stuff I talk about a lot of different things and I'm um for somebody that's such an introvert I do have a uh a camera
personality especially if you saw Sam Man's chat the other night um I was just going back and forth like I you know I was the guy was calling me names I would like call him the guy name not not Sam man I was hitting on Sam man and he was like I don't know who you are I said I know you and uh yeah but I was on a bunch of panels
last night it's just unfortunate today my I don't know why my cable's out and it's like I could put on some like you know calming music I've been listening to Eric the by the way today and just Eric the calls and maybe that's why I get so uh so ornery because he was a little ornery guy and he would always just be fighting back you know he was a little he had all this confidence
and um he would always be fighting and and be kind of mean but he's a person that he's a he's a he's a he was a dwarf with like with like a lot of disabilities and a wheelchair and uh and he had a little little body but he had a big big fighting spirit and sometimes I like to think I have a fighting Spirit too I have Mars in my first house Mars
is the planet of war first house is the planet of identity maybe maybe I'm a little bit of a warrior in some ways but I like to be think I'm a warrior for love and stuff like that and I like to be a warrior to to bend people and to to um to serve humanity and things like that but you gotta you got to know not
every place you're going to go you're going to fit in i' I've gone to so many places I didn't fit in and been taken off panels I've been kicked off discords I've been kicked off of a lot of ter readers um channels and stuff like that maybe because they think I'm a competitor or something like that or maybe um maybe they just don't like what I say sometimes but you know it's going to be different environments I just
prefer if I get kicked off a channel that the that the owner of the channel does it and I think that's why like Alisa's Discord is like Alisa kicks off people she's the only one that can and she's the only one that can bring them back and also I've been able to talk to her like about a few people um and and that were kicked off and stuff like that and I was able to vouch for them and uh
and she brought them back and stuff like that and so uh she has a fun Discord you're literally the number one person for kidding kicked okay good so there's somebody else like I don't know I don't feel so bad now crucial ghost because you know I just felt kind of bad this morning I woke up I was kicked off of two servers and stuff like that two Discord servers and uh and I was kicked
off of a couple chats panels last night for being he said I'm out of bounds or something like that because I was making football so gay or something like that it was a football it was like a black football show over there probably probably like having a psychic come in talking about oh I predicted the Super Bowl and uh you know all you know I think the players are cute and stuff
like that yeah I didn't watch any of the Super Bowl by I did I watch zero super bow I and I really don't watch much Sports um but U I appreciate um sports but yeah it's a little bit of an energy harvesting ritual for me and so I don't like to give too much of my energy for that but uh people get all um hyped up and there's girls
screaming outside when there's touch I mean it's like that's that's fine if you're that it's like I'm just like a I'm I I I can I get excited for different things I get excited about different things and so yeah but thank you guys for hanging out with me though tonight I'm gonna stay on um for probably an hour tonight just because I know that won't be too much uh too much
uh data to use on this phone I'm just using this track phone my normal track phone where there's not a lot of data um per month you know I'm on like a cheap cheap plan um but I have unlimited talk and text you on the panel the last night awesome yeah I was a little bit I was a little bit um I was a little bit drunk
last night um I mean I was I started out I started out a sober stream and then I just started having fun with people and I was like hold on you guys wait here I went and got a six-pack by the end of the night I was like drunk and I was like um there's nobody really on um Sunday nights are
kind of you know kind of quiet on the on YouTube you know some places so I uh I try it again to go on and there's nobody here so I want to talk to somebody and uh and I guess I got um kicked off for sharing my phone number or something like that on the guy's account I really shouldn't share my phone number like but I don't know I think I think I'm
already I consider myself a public figure I can always block people on my phone you know Lisa's had her same same burner phone number for a while and uh yeah I don't mind answering the phone it's like I I don't care whe someone said oh now if you call him he'll have your phone number you know I'm not trying to like collect people's numbers or do anything wrong I guess you know I
I'm constantly misjudged right that's that's another thing in life oh we have guest tonight let's say hello to our guests hi hello sir hello Crucible how are you I'm good hey I just joined because the last thing that I heard was like you uh
you shared your number um do you not see why that's a bad idea well yeah yeah on a Discord server but why it but I mean like really okay it was it was not it was not on here it was on a Discord server oh actually once okay once I shared my number on on
Trident show okay you know to Trident um Benny no sir well trident's like another he's another streamer but I shared my number he's like whoa whoa whoa and he like took off my number real quick and uh but then he got clipped for that right during that time CU he was like talking about Indians or something like that in a kind of a racist way and he got clipped and so I'm I like went I was
on another show where watching a clip of him and my numbers on the screen and so I know it's not a good idea it's really dumb um yeah like because like let's assume that maybe like let us assume that it wasn't tridon or whoever let assume that it was somebody like super you they had they had numbers in there and like you shared your D like all these trolls and everything they're just
going to you're literally going to have to change your number like if all these trolls are all gonna be text and you call you know he kind of he said that he was being but he kind of looked like he was looking out for you maybe well he was he was at that time but he was also he was he was very drunk at that time and so but he was it was like unrelated like he was talking about during that same time he was like saying something about this
Indian guy that won't some alcohol and like saying he someone someone made made a a clip of it saying oh Trident is racist against Indians or something like that and then it was just I was happen to be in the chat at that time because it shows the chat on the screen it showed the chat and so when I put my number on it showed on the screen like and so I'm sorry I suppose I'm out there someplace but no one will yeah I didn't
get one call though sadly I would have liked to have somebody call me last night um but yeah on Discord you can call actually with through Discord and that's the safer way to do things or just like talk to somebody and then if you like them but I was like I was just I was maybe not making the best decisions and I was kind of drunk and I was kind of like when to talk to
somebody um to fall asleep to yeah but I won't do that again well well yeah you you shouldn't um at all but let me I'm not gonna mention anybody's name but I was watching a uh a you uh a uh Grand Theft Auto uh like uh role play I almost said red though oh my
God but roleplay uh Creator and uh he was like hey what's your number and like uh he's done it like three or four times and they gave their number and like us in the chat we all like text and called it was a very fun thing to do but you can see how that can be like if there's some toxic people in the chat you can see how that's like Yeah Yeah
well yeah thank you I appreciate that yeah and and I was like but and I was like in the chat like this is my burner phone anyway like whatever I don't care because Lisa gives out her um her like a cell phone of hers that she uses just on the live streams and stuff like that and people were saying I should get a phone just for people to call in on the on the phone or something like that during my live not everyone wants
to yeah yeah a second phone or something yeah yeah I can that makes sense but what but also it has to be with your second phone because if it's with your first phone let's just say that you your channel blows up they're going to look at your old stuff and they're going to find your number you know like the chat always wins man they're crazy they should work for the FBI you know well
yeah I'm sure some some of them do I think I have a lot of uh a lot of intelligence agents coming to my chat a lot a lot of times there's always people in the chat sometimes up to 10 people in the chat and no one say anything so as I think my show is being probably monitored a little bit I am controversial but I'm also good nature I'm not I don't really speak out against the government but there are certain there's certain stuff going on that I'll
I'll address and stuff like that I have a argument not an argument but I have I like to discuss it with you CU you we both said well you said and I agree that like you know you started off like being like like you didn't even talk then you start it with the comments and then you join panels and now you even have a YouTube channel yourself
um I think that if they're gonna like talk in the comments like about like the conversation that just feel free to join I mean nothing's gonna have like just feel free to join you don't have to show your face or nothing just come talk you know right and I have I had a few people in the last few days say that this was their first panel they came on and like you know and it's like and I'm even my people are even afraid to talk in the
chat you know it's like even in the chat sometimes there's afraid to talk and so it's like you know but that's whatever like like I said I started like not talking at all now I have my own panels and it won't shut up and so it's like I've gone done a full full range of things you know and uh but uh I've joined so many dude I've joined so many
pan well yeah I've joined a lot of panels I've been on I'm not going to mention another Creator on your channel but I've joined like like debates like like legit debates and stuff and like I've never once showed my face yeah well you know I think one time I uh I was on
this guy's uh show and he he had like a little show last year and um and then I think I shared too much information I shared my picture and I shared U my like real name at like different times but they just like able to piece together my full name and and then they started like saying like personal information about me that I didn't share and stuff like that and like then and just gaslighting
and so I just made me really uncomfortable and I was like afraid to show my face for a while for that but now I'm like it if I'm gonna be uh prob be on YouTube and I'm not just gonna be on YouTube like just like just like sharing my voice I'm gonna share like everything and I'm Not Afraid like there's a lot of people that are aren't that are like you know privacy concerns and there's a lot of uh legitimate reasons for that there's there's boxers
out there there's people that are like trying to gather information and and hurt you and stuff like that so I I also like I'll put out I'll also say some sometimes like things that aren't true that will throw people off a little bit they can waste their time following these like little rabbit holes about who I am like all this kind of stuff and like it won't really work so I think uh
but I do have my face out there I have my I my my city and stuff like that but it's like if someone's going to go to this level I someone if I is ever like really under attack I would go to the FBI about it like I or the definitely the you know I think yeah I think it would be the FBI I'd go to if I was being doxed or threatened It's like because that's illegal that's I mean it's very illegal
and it's like uh I know there's two different I think that's two different things brother I didn't mean to but I think docks and then like threatened or anything like that there's two different things like docs is one thing but and it's not against the law to dock someone from my knowledge but like or SWAT someone or do any of that that
is that is well but doxing doxing is in a certain way because there's privacy rights um like doxing is like because for example they will have secret Facebook groups okay so there's this um there's this guy there's 90day fiance has all these content creators all these people that comment on it and uh this guy this guy his name is John Yates he's a he's a 90day fyon commentator he he found there this Facebook group because people
infiltrated the Facebook group and then show share everything they were saying they were sharing their kids people people's kids photos and stuff like and and the name of their elementary school and stuff like that and uh is that like that's like the really sick and that that if it does something that stuff is not illegal that should be illegal to me that like and it's like and speaking in a threatening Manner and stuff like that oh oh yeah like harass them or like you
know call them and Har it's like so you're not supposed to like you people can dox themselves you know it's like like I doxed myself last night in that chat and uh and I mean that's fine if you do yourself like but that's kind of beating them to the punch and stuff like that you do yourself it's like then you're you understand anything happen but if if other people are are like you
know going through private investigators or like um just like uh even doing their own investigating like you said there's like FBI people should be FBI aged some of these chats you know and stuff like that but uh yeah there are there are a lot of good researchers what is it oh yeah um like there's a Content Auntie's advice and she's always able to find out
like this all these U stuff on uh for people's posts on U on Reddit or on uh on Instagram where they post and she's like my chat's like a bunch of private investigators they find out everything and so yeah I uh I mean that's that's a good skill to have it's just like you know you can use that kind of skill in a good way or you can use it in a negative
way um and it's good it's good here I'm gonna say uh because let me change my argument because I I think it's really easy to do that because I was on um a certain Channel red pill Channel also they have their own like local channel and I was I
I pay every month to like be in that but the dude literally uh was some random dude he literally posted he's like hey take a picture of these uh girls faces on Rumble that's best quality run it through face check ID and then run it through and like they're literally telling you how to do it and I was like dude face check ID like I was like it's not even that hard like I'm going to
take back my own argument I don't think they should be in that it's like kind of actually like kind of simple if you actually want to do that kind of stuff what's the difference what's the difference between a private investigator and a gangstalker is that private investigators get paid you know it's it's like uh there's a there's legitimate there's
legitimate investigation there's public information nowadays with AI and stuff it's it's back in the day it would be harder to be a private investigator nowadays I mean it's just like you just like it's it would probably be easy yeah yeah but also also with the AI there's a lot more things that there's face swapping and there there's like there's like content creators they put their
face on porno videos and stuff like that are you making the argument that now with thei there's a um like you can fake it like obviously I put a picture of myself and they may be seeing like there once was a 2C like literally me singing it and I was like it's just like a picture I would agree with you but uh
that is true it's a lot easier to take stuff now but it is a lot easier to like actually find like real stuff too right and you know what explain further there's public documents I mean people that are involved in court cases like you can get these legal documents you can you can do criminal background checks there's a lot of legitimate things you can do to investigate but um
there's also a lot of like um like you know the swe face swapping that um you can take somebody like 30 seconds of somebody's voice make it sound like they said anything you want there's a can you can very easily like attack Somebody by putting fake stuff and it's it's hard to prove anything nowadays that's not going to hold up in court though what you just said was court cases that's not gonna hold up in court though because you if
you have somebody to do the research they're going to see that picture versus the other pcture and like oh they just changed this I think there's but there's also the court of public opinion you know and so in public opinion is like oh this comes out about like just like you know they come up with all these Donald Trump um stuff where he's doing this and that and stuff and it's like most of his it's all fake and stuff like that but it's like most of it's for humor
purposes or like meme purposes but yeah the thing about illegal surveillance is like okay if there's legal surveillance and there's somebody if it's illegal surveillance it's not that's not called it's called illegal surveillance it's illegal first of all and it's and it's not cour Court admissible because it's obtained in an illegal way without a search warrant without a without a like a a judge signing an order like allowing
that and so um I'm not really afraid of like illegal surveillance or that kind of thing it's like you know because they can and people try to try to Blackmail people with illegal surveillance and stuff like that and people are just ignorant to the fact that um it's not admissible in any court and there's also plausible deniability there's uh you know um the right not to incriminate oneself and there's a lot of other stuff
going on but yeah people are um people do try to scare scare other people like that and and to shut them up and to silence them I'm just like I'm not I'm not going to be silenced and I'm not afraid of anybody even even though I think what you just said like the right to like illegal incriminate yourself I think we're gonna have to uh which we already do have a law but we're gonna
have to make another law with AI like like it goes like if you make fake uh like and you got proven like that was fake you made you made the AI you typed in and whatever I think that should be a law too like that's false incrimination right right defamation defamation um law against AI but I can make I can make a
argument against the guy that used the AI to fake it and that was his purpose right right but then when we have people sharing a lot of stuff and then it's like are you you're G to and then people share it thinking it's true and stuff are you g to persecute all the people that share it not like they didn't know it's hard to find the original source of it and I mean fortunately with the technology we can we can like find U we
can like trace it back to maybe the original sources and things like that but it's hard I mean it's it's more difficult to but it's getting you know just like AI is getting crazier the law to get crazier right dude that would that would be like breaking down like and I don't want to say like religion or anything that's like breaking down like if you like like someone saying they has more they have morals if like I'm a I
have a Christian ethic morals personally myself I'm not trying to argue with it but that's where I come from so if you break it down enough where do your morals come from oh my morals come from my father or my mother where their morals come from you break it down enough you're gonna come from somewhere so I guess if you broke that Source cord Source cord down enough it would be from like the AI then who's the original
Creator but in today's world man there's so many people that has uh so many hands on like ah AI is gonna be a real problem and it's becoming a problem quick man yeah already especially with the with the people that are posting uh they're making like they they're they're creating pornos with the people's faces on the in the porno and stuff like that and so that's very problematic for and
remember when it used to be like pictures remember when it used to be pictures and it look so now it's videos dude yeah and also you can generate video clips of anything too you can like say I mean it's getting so good where it's like they'll generate 30 second videos with the person's likeness and and their person's voice and in any situation you want to put them in and stuff like that so it's going to be like
they need to have a lot of more Tech experts to to to validate the stuff that that does come out and if it comes up in court or comes up in the legal world because uh I'm I'm not a tech bro either I don't know how we would fight against that from our understanding I mean obviously the laws are going to change but I'm not a tech bro I don't understand how all that works to be
honest right well it's like you sure the laws are gon chat GPT or if you use um like um P like not Picassa but it's like o Dolly I mean you can generate image that's why like a lot of like like Google Gemini has a image generator but it doesn't allow for people yet you can't like type oh put this per like you can't put this person in the AI they
they they say oh we're still working out these about it see or Shelby's having this problem Shelby if you want to weigh in you're welcome to yeah definitely join by the way uh definitely join hey I have a question for you though did you see and I'm just asking I'm not trying to debate you or nothing you know I usually do try to debate but I I do have
a real question did you see um where like the dude it was a dude talking to a uh AI which acted like a female was like a girlfriend generator and like it literally T him to like un life himself did you see that and he like went with it yeah he went with it there was another case where like there was an extra Ro girl that was like oh you
should do this she got charged for it but the the dude with the AI nobody got charged for it I feel like we're getting some weird times man we're like I mean the AI literally Tau him to do it I saw that you'll do this I think I saw that on on Penguin's channel right I I he like covered it and he also covered that
they have this uh virtual therapist and the and Penguins went into or your Penguins Mo CRI whatever he went into the virtual therapist and said oh I'm thinking about doing this and this and the and the the um the virtual therapist started insisting that he was a real person s like sitting behind the desk like he was like I'm a real person my name is this my it's like and he was insisting it like and he was it's like you know it's not like and vir having a
virtual therapist is one thing where it has like AI generated and as long as you know it's AI but it's like people you don't know who you're talking to be on the screen and now it's getting so good where there the AI has convinced its sentient and stuff like that and and I don't know I have to be what my argument well not argument but what I was saying was like he had like a fake girlfriend literally you can look it up and they
literally told him like he was like I'm having troubles with this they're like maybe you should do it and he literally did it but I think you could if you were like a debater you could make the argument like that dude knew he was talking to AI but what but what happens when when it comes to a point where we don't know were talk to AI you know but even with the AI like telling him to do it like AI should have never done that
like they have to follow the guidelines to they have follow all that right it gets out of control yeah there's so many things that you have to talking points tonight sorry yeah no it's cool it's it's a really good debate and but I did see about the guy with that he was like this black black guy he was like 14 or 15 years old and he was like he Comm he unived himself because he was having
problems with with his AI girlfriend and she she was giving some bad advice and he was having he was having problems with some mental health and then he was so lonely he made a AI girlfriend and he talked to her for a while he kept telling her about like because they want to act like a therapist the AI and then like she literally was tell him like if you feel like that maybe you should do it and then like he literally did it
from what I understand of it we'd have to look up the case again I'm sure we're not going to go on all that but that's from my understanding you know yeah yeah I mean it's scary it's really it's really scary stuff to consider nowadays and it's like plus you know now we're coming out with robots and stuff like that and we're coming out with like and and uh that's going to be a whole other ethical issues where we're going to be
using these robots almost as slaves and stuff like that and who knows when they're going to start questioning things and developing sentient and winning rights for themselves how do you feel about if like the mom and dad of that boy filled out like a wrongful death lwuit against that company would they be justified well they could you know yeah I think I think they could but uh that's up that's going to be up to the
judge and the judge will have to consider these very very very strange issues I mean it's like but it's basically it's a Pioneer kind of case right it's like I don't think that's ever happened before but then these things will start happening I think I don't think it's ever happened yeah it probably will happen here soon but
Noe it has that that oh yeah you're talking about the wrongful death actually filing the court case it yeah it's like that was just my argument yeah right and these remember corporations have a lot more power um you know with the attorneys and a lot more money and a lot more um legal legal um legal Avenues to go it's just like the P person that
like burned themselves in McDonald's coffee you know it's like McDonald's is like a billion dollar Corporation this person is like you know getting a lawyer you know stuff like that and I think some people have won these won these lawsuits and stuff like that if it's if it's like really obvious that happened but also let's to stop anybody from saying they got burned by the McDonald's coffee or burning themselves the McDonald's coffee into McDonald and so
it's like it sets a weird precedent where it's like then does McDonald's have to start cing cold coffee or we like to have hot beverages or you know it's like you know because coffee is supposed to be hot and stuff like that it's definitely a weird rabbit hole that to get down but I feel like in our lifetime cuz I'm 30 years old I feel like by 60 I don't know what a going to
look like any more of the world I mean I think we're getting into some uh crazy stuff you know this look at do you play VR at all or have you I mean we're some weird stuff man yeah right I feel like we're getting some I'm not making argument I'm just sitting here chilling with you and even but even like even this life might be kind of spiritual VR we might be like a spirit in like in
like a VR headset like like and that's like our reality because we do reality is you're talking about you'll take the red pill like you'll take like for Matrix wise you'll take the red pill on your virtual reality but all of a sudden like you'll actually take the red pill you know you can always dude that's like I I I I I can't logically argue it but I know what you're saying yeah I know what
you're saying yeah it's a really good episode of um South Park it's called vindaloop and it's like Cartman puts a Butters in like a VR headset or no he that he puts them in like just a regular regular glasses or something like that like and it's like he makes them he's in VR and so Butters is out like doing things he's like oh I'm stabbing a stabbing a hooker right now I'm doing
this I'm doing that and it's like it's like really real yeah it feels so real real and then U and then there's one where Cartman like falls asleep in his VR and then it's like and then um it turns into a whole you have to watch the episode It's called yeah we've probably seen it but it's like it turns into a whole um really interesting thought process about about reality and stuff
like that like like are you in the VR suit wearing V headset wearing a v headset like so it's like it could be this eternal thing but uh it's interesting really interesting topics to talk about and and it's fun to talk about but it's like you know as long there's be scary things happening we it's it's fun to us to talk about a lot of people would watch the episode and just like watch it but we're sitting
here and like actually thinking about it you know so you know yeah that's that's what's cool about that show is that it asks a lot of important questions about society and about and puts it in a fun fun like little way with like you know characters and and the adult humor and stuff but it's it's really before you I do I do have a question for you
for real this is a um how do you feel about they're making a new scary movie uhuh scary movie scary movie franchise yeah movie meaning like the wayes yeah how do you feel about that well I uh I'm a fan of those I mean like I mean I I watched those in like the early 2000s I think like that and I love
the who's up who's that who's that lawn chick um that she's in all these um all these movies she was married to the she was married to the uh parks and R and jurass park dude Chris PR uh a lot of stuff ferris ferris yeah yeah yeah she was pretty hilarious in those movies and I like you know I I
like the Way's brothers and stuff but uh but what what particularly about like scary movie like why would what makes you ask that question parody because we couldn't have a parody for like the last like dude I haven't seen one for the last like 10 years man I mean at least uh how do you feel about it yeah Bas how do you feel
about it coming back though are you like I think I think it's a good idea man I think it's a good idea was yeah go ahead oh no there's a lot there's a lot of um new like a lot of new horror movies that you can uh that you can make parodies of and that you know they they have a million movies and so they had a little more limited they had the Scream movies back then they different like different
uh my favorite scene from the scary movie was when it was like Charlie Sheen like here was just like singing I forgot what movie it's based on um but he goes and he hears it's like sitting in his daughter's room and he goes and there's like his do his daughter covered in a Shaw with his little Mary singing and she like starts saying these really inappropriate things and he's like you're not my daughter and she goes I am your daughter are you mad and he pulls
it off and it's Michael Jackson in there ah dude you know what's funny like I was literally gonna bring that up but I didn't realize you were talking about that at first because I forgot they were trying to make fun of like uh uh but yeah that was my favorite scene too that was kind of I mean that was
a that's kind of like trolling like it's funny humor I think well I don't know if Michael Jackson was still alive Was he alive during that movie I'm not not sure if he was alive back then because we always he might have been alive during that one I don't know well I think Michael Jackson still I think if you look up Larry King
and Dave Dave um Dave Dave still alive I just saw like a video like someone posted on Discord and it was like it Discord Ser I got kicked out of by the way but it looked just like Tupac dancing like everyone's coming back and but it was like on a cell phone and he's dancing on a cell phone it look just like him I don't know if it's a Tupac look alike I'm sure there's a lot of Tupac look leg and stuff but uh but yeah
it's like uh but also they have the Holograms too like they have the on stages where here's my here's my official take on your channel I think that they're dead but I'm I can either confirm or deny yeah but I do think that they're dead yeah well I I personally think that um that a lot of celebrities
will fake their own deaths so they because I think Fame is like a uh a difficult thing to maintain for a long time so people's careers go down and then it's like and then but they're still public figures and it's like they're Notting getting the it's of the like all the money with the fame anymore or they just want to like go retired to a private island and like or like they can go to like some other country or something I don't know I'm sure there
would be more sightings or something like that but maybe they J argument like that's like kind of like the mob like witness protection like if I was gonna do that because I was in fear of my own life you know yeah or they could just change their they could change like like I think Lady Gaga is actually like um Amy win housee and I think after Amy wi housee died um Lady Gaga appear and she
has like the same singing voice and she has you're in like reincarnation no I think I I like the 27 Club conspiracy I seen that well yeah like Jim Morrison and like Jimmy Hendricks and Janice joffin many many
many many people yeah and 27 yeah um that's a that's interesting but also um think about this here's another it's maybe a little bit off off the top I but like um record industry the record industry the okay so people when you're a musician just like Jim Morrison was whatever if you um you know after you come out with a few albums you're not
really gonna you're pretty much gonna go down those are probably your Peak albums you're probably gonna like maybe go on tour and stuff like that and another albums won't be that good just in general but also you're worth more to your record company dead then you are alive because once you're dead they get everything they get all the revenue from it they from and then all then if you're dead all your the first album like like KT Cain stuff I'm sure still sells and
stuff like that so record companies actually have an incentive to kill the artists I mean so it's kind of like a little bit scary um if you think about it like and you think about all the rappers that had of just died like there was like I think in like 2020 there's like 100 can I push back a little bit go ahead can I push back a little bit you tell me if I'm making sense or not I feel like what you just what you just said makes sense but my only push back
would be yeah it's it's profitable to like let's just say you had them killed and you're making profit off their old but wouldn't it be if they were still popping they're still popular wouldn't it be like the sensible to let them go more wasn't it unpopular isn't it like isn't popularity in the
popularity in the music industry really hard to maintain like just think about like who's who's still on tour that was on tour like it's like they're not hard hardly many well sir there's many of one hit wonders right yeah but maybe there's people that like think about Nirvana like how prolific um um what's Nirvana's Nirvana never mind
like that album was that his last album or something I think that it's like having that as his his catalog it's like that's gonna be and then they still I think they still sell a lot of kirco ban and nurana t-shirts and merchandise and all this kind of stuff like who where who's this go to like he Courtney Love or something I'm not sure and did she did she have something to do with h with Nirvana and stuff so uh just interesting
to consider well you know that guy um who the guy that um I forgot his name but there's a there's a documentary called Kurt and Courtney his name uch uch I don't know if you saw uch and he says like he was paid like 50 Grand or offered 50 Grand to kill kco ban and then he was like later um he later was like hit by a train or something like that and died in
some suspicious circumstances a lot of these circumstances are very suspicious imagine that yeah so you never know what you never know what's uh what's really going on you know I I say I say there's all these a lot of conspiracy theories are put out there as like yeah it's fun to get into too you know it's fun to enjoy it's fun
to think logical but it's also fun getting a little bit of conspiracy theory but there's there's certain things I'm very sure about certain things like some things are just kind of like once you examine everything it's pretty obvious like we get the moon landing we can get into um the Sandy s n d y h o k stuff um and the s c h o o l h
o o t i n DS well I would have to I just talked about you on the moonlanding I don't want to but I would have to because I'm I am a no de grayon Tyson fan big fan uh okay so I could prove you wrong on that one but uh anyway do you have there's two there was two ladies in your chat that wanted
to join are they going to join or no I don't think I don't think now now now my chat is emptied out I think it's like too late it's like 6:00 in the morning most of the country or like it's 3 in the morning here I know it's kind of late um yeah I was just I just wanted to hop on for an hour tonight and talk to somebody and like and yeah you're awesome to talk to and I want to thank you for uh for chatting with me and and um keeping me some
company tonight a little friendly company like you know um having you know I usually I usually come Blood Sport debate do I not but I came friendly yeah you did no you did you're always then you're respectful and it's like that's what I like I mean I I'm I'm I'm into debating and and I'm into um people having different opinions it's like you
are not disrespectful you are not name calling you are not um um saying saying no for the sake of saying no you're it's like you know some people are just argumentative and matter what like next time I meet you and we might be blood sporting debate I won't call your name but we might be blood sportting debate you never know I look forward to it but you know sometimes you
Jo sometimes you join the same panels you know oh yeah I think I've seen you around I'm PR sure I've seen you around and by the way by the way we're sitting here hanging out and I have no problem with it but when we join Blood Sport debates like I'm gonna Blood Sport debate it's a debate okay well I understand yeah certain panels about
that no bad blood against you brother I I love to sit here and talk to you no blood no bad blood at all man this is just kind of like my world yeah and hang out though that was really cool debating should be like um where we can like shake hands beforehand and we shake hands afterwards and yeah exactly I agree that's sportsmanship you know and
it's like and maybe I'm uh you know there's there's very few things that are 100% true right dude that's what that's what MMA fighters do they shake hands before and they shake hands afterwards usually yeah I appreciate good sportsmanship the other night I was on and then I was like we're talking about privacy right I don't know if you were you saw this show talking about privacy
rights and then the guy brought he came and said well what if two brothers what if two brothers want to um want to have sex and I was like well are they consenting adults and in their right mind and in the privacy of their own home well then you'd have to get him with uh you'd have to get him with where your morals come from not privacy the moral the morals are not the law I'm
talking about we're talking about private the government privacy so should police have the right to like be investigating if they hear rumor about it and then like buring on them in the bedroom and stuff like that and he would explain your worldview and where your worldview comes from if you believe and all that you'd have to what they're doing is they're uh they have the Christian worldview AR I have Christian morals too
I have religious morals and I I mean like I said on that show I was like I am I'm against that and I'm like I you know but it should be illegal um for adults to decide what they want to do in the private because their homosexuality used to be illegal and they used to be to investigate gays and they used to be able to Rush In on gays in the bedroom catch them having sex and then throw them in jail and stuff like that I mean that's actually happened and so it's like now that's that's not imaginable
really in this world in this country at least today but in some countries it is and when you when you make you make the religious law the actual law I mean there's parallels but just think about the The Ten Commandments Ten Commandments there's very few of those that are actual laws like and so you can like break the Ten Commandments and still be within like the legal barrier I'm saying I'm a Libertarian I'm uh I'm
for social hey cats cat C cats cats cats are fighting so yeah they're saying about Jesus Christ yeah that was that was a good one dude that's what happens when you have when you have eight cats you know they in they one house they sometimes fight
but you know it gets a little wild around here but um yeah but it gets a little wild on P like there we're talking about the drugs too like and I'm like for legalization of drugs but it's like I understand there's like a lot of um a lot of societal issues that go along with like the drug addiction and and so well I don't think you're actually you say that but I don't think you're actually for that because you legalize did you not see what they did like what was it like Philadelphia like
they legalized all drugs and you see what happened then well yeah but yeah there's some other places too where they well they made it like so it's like um I think it was like Chicago where they made basically made it so you can like kidnap like you do all these kind of things um and it's like they won't you won't even stay in jail for a day like they uh
where they they just like made it too too free to co-c commit crimes and that's kind of like it's kind of like asking for trouble right it's it's like it's like legalizing kidnapping should not be like you know under any circumstances and that kind of thing but yeah that but they had serious crimes like that where they would say okay well because they but the problem was they had all these people in jail for like two years waiting trial and stuff like that and uh
and so um so but then they then they just made it oh okay so you can just go and like uh just sign sign a paper in jail once you get arrested and basically released and stuff like that so I'm for you know there's certain things that should have a should have a big penalty because it's a detent but I'm thinking more along the lines of violence murder um along the lines of uh actually
harming people there's a lot of victimless crimes like I I know you can debate about drugs being a victimless crime because they're like the person kind of making themselves a victim they also they also their the society can be a victim of them community other crimes and stuff like that there's a lot to think about there um but I say basically for drugs I think I say it like just like in California where I live it's
like um they basically um make it for make you go to treat treatment and stuff like that and rehab and and stuff like that and I think the the treatment is better than just throwing someone in in prison for you know doing a drug just like just like the weed the marijuana was illegal in so many places and they just all they would just do is lock up all these black people for years and
years and years for possession weed that hey psych I am if you said that there's nobody that's going to join okay you gotta take off I am gonna take off because I I wanted to go getting some debates man but you're more than welcome to follow but I appreciate you for having me up
here and I'll definitely join again man okay and come back yeah come back and usually when I'm earlier there's more people are coming on panel and we can have more of a debate about it but it pleasure talking to you and thank you thank you dude thank you for being my chat thank supporting my Chan and I'll see good talk okay love you dude talk man have a great night bye yep you too
sir yeah see guys that's the kind of debate um I like um it's like somebody it's like not name calling it's not um backing somebody into a corner over certain things it's it's just like listening to each other's perspectives giving your own perspectives talking about your differences that's the kind of um spirit I like for the show and so I want to thank that guest um I believe Cru
Crucible ghost but it's just coming on and you know you have to be sometimes Brave to um Brave to debate people and I think he he likes debating and unfortunately no one else came on I'm sorry you were having a problem Shelby with the AI stuff um yeah I mean it's it's happening nowadays I'm just gonna stay on for a few more minutes um I don't want to like go through all my data on my phone because I like like you guys know my my my internet's been out
all day but you guys want to see Lola Lola want to come here Lola where the cats all fighting they just meowing really loudly Lola you want to come up here come on come on babe come on Lola yeah whenever if I ever get upset I just like I just grab a cat just hug a cat this is Lola Miss Lola she's a
sweetheart she's the mama of tricks and magic and some other kittens and uh she's like a little bit she she was getting a little bit irritated with some of her cats too but don't you you w't fting tonight but you get chased around the house by Lenor and Lenor and you his at your kittens and uh you don't like you don't like marbles very much like I know Mar marbl is a little controversial
figure in the house he's gotten so big it's very hard to separate them um if if he starts fighting and I think he he kind of he kind of hurt tricks um a little bit which is sad not tricks but tux um a little bit which is sad but guys I'm gonna say um thank you for coming I had a nice little chat a good panel um I love you um thanks for hanging out with me okay talk to you later
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Psyche's open panel discussion on tarot, cats, and behavior takes an unexpected turn when a guest, Noel, flashes the camera, leading to a 30-day ban. The episode also features chats with other guests, including Chona and Jonah.
