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This episode of the Cult of Psyche podcast explores the classic fairy tale of the Frog and the Princess, analyzing its symbolic and archetypal themes. The story is about a princess who makes a bargain with a talking frog to retrieve her golden ball, and the journey of self-discovery that follows.
Original TransmissionsThere is a moment in every bargain where
There is a moment in every bargain where
you realize you've already paid. [music]
you realize you've already paid. [music]
The princess didn't know this yet. She
The princess didn't know this yet. She
was 19. Beautiful in the way that
was 19. Beautiful in the way that
powerful fathers manufacture beautiful
powerful fathers manufacture beautiful
daughters carefully, [music]
daughters carefully, [music]
strategically, as though beauty were a
strategically, as though beauty were a
weapon to be holstered until needed. Her
weapon to be holstered until needed. Her
name was Esolda, and she had everything
name was Esolda, and she had everything
except [music] anything she had chosen
except [music] anything she had chosen
for herself. The golden ball was hers.
for herself. The golden ball was hers.
one of the few things that [music] was
one of the few things that [music] was
she'd taken to coming to the well at the
she'd taken to coming to the well at the
edge of the royal forest every afternoon
edge of the royal forest every afternoon
alone which was [music] itself a small
alone which was [music] itself a small
revolution throwing the ball up catching
revolution throwing the ball up catching
it the satisfying smack [music] of gold
it the satisfying smack [music] of gold
against palm the repetition of it the
against palm the repetition of it the
solitude the day she dropped it she
solitude the day she dropped it she
wasn't careless she was thinking
wasn't careless she was thinking
something she'd been told [music] in
something she'd been told [music] in
various polite ways not to do too much
various polite ways not to do too much
of she was thinking about the man her
of she was thinking about the man her
father had selected for her Dukerich
father had selected for her Dukerich
43 eyes like old coins. The way he'd
[music]
43 eyes like old coins. The way he'd
[music]
appraised her at dinner the night
appraised her at dinner the night
before. The way one appraises livestock.
before. The way one appraises livestock.
Smack. Smack. The ball left her hands
Smack. Smack. The ball left her hands
and disappeared into the dark circle of
and disappeared into the dark circle of
the well. [music] She stood at the edge
the well. [music] She stood at the edge
and looked down. Nothing. Blackness and
and looked down. Nothing. Blackness and
the distant suggestion of water. She
the distant suggestion of water. She
started to cry, which [music] surprised
started to cry, which [music] surprised
her. It wasn't the ball. It was
her. It wasn't the ball. It was
everything the ball meant. The last
everything the ball meant. The last
small thing gone. I can [music] retrieve
small thing gone. I can [music] retrieve
it. The voice came from the moss beside
it. The voice came from the moss beside
the well. low, measured, oddly formal.
the well. low, measured, oddly formal.
The frog was large, [music]
The frog was large, [music]
larger than frogs have any business
larger than frogs have any business
being, and it sat watching her with eyes
being, and it sat watching her with eyes
that were not frog eyes. "Frog eyes are
that were not frog eyes. "Frog eyes are
gold and empty." These were [music] dark
gold and empty." These were [music] dark
and very, very present. Eilda wiped her
and very, very present. Eilda wiped her
face. "You can speak. I can do [music]
face. "You can speak. I can do [music]
many things," the frog said. "The
many things," the frog said. "The
question is whether you want what I can
question is whether you want what I can
offer." She should have walked away. She
offer." She should have walked away. She
knew this later. The first rule of
knew this later. The first rule of
bargains at the edges of forests, at the
bargains at the edges of forests, at the
lips of wells, with creatures that
lips of wells, with creatures that
should not be able to speak. Walk away.
should not be able to speak. Walk away.
Every [music] story her nurse had ever
Every [music] story her nurse had ever
told her said so in not so many words.
told her said so in not so many words.
She didn't walk away. What do you want?
She didn't walk away. What do you want?
She asked. [music]
She asked. [music]
Companionship. The frog said. That's
Companionship. The frog said. That's
all. To eat from your plate. To sleep
all. To eat from your plate. To sleep
beside you. To be treated as an equal.
beside you. To be treated as an equal.
It seemed like nothing. It seemed like
It seemed like nothing. It seemed like
almost nothing. And in return, the frog
almost nothing. And in return, the frog
slipped into the well.
slipped into the well.
>> [music]
>> 30 seconds later, her golden ball rose
>> [music]
>> 30 seconds later, her golden ball rose
through the dark water on the surface of
through the dark water on the surface of
its tongue. The king, her father,
its tongue. The king, her father,
thought it was delightful. "A talking
thought it was delightful. "A talking
frog," he said [music] at dinner that
frog," he said [music] at dinner that
night, watching it sit on the white
night, watching it sit on the white
tablecloth beside his daughter's plate.
tablecloth beside his daughter's plate.
[music] "A bargaining talking frog." Is
[music] "A bargaining talking frog." Is
sold. You will honor the agreement. He
sold. You will honor the agreement. He
[music] was smiling the way he smiled at
[music] was smiling the way he smiled at
her tutors when he wanted her to absorb
her tutors when he wanted her to absorb
something. The smile that said, "This is
something. The smile that said, "This is
a [music] lesson." She understood the
a [music] lesson." She understood the
lesson. Honor your word. even to the
lesson. Honor your word. even to the
least of things. This is what noble
least of things. This is what noble
blood means. She cut her meat. She
blood means. She cut her meat. She
pushed half the plate toward the frog.
pushed half the plate toward the frog.
She didn't look at it. That night, it
She didn't look at it. That night, it
slept at the foot of her bed. The second
slept at the foot of her bed. The second
night, [music] at the pillow's edge. The
night, [music] at the pillow's edge. The
third night, she woke at 3:00 a.m. to
third night, she woke at 3:00 a.m. to
find it watching her [music] from 6 in
find it watching her [music] from 6 in
away. It's dark not frog eyes open and
away. It's dark not frog eyes open and
unblinking, and she felt not fear.
unblinking, and she felt not fear.
Exactly. Something quieter than fear.
Exactly. Something quieter than fear.
like the feeling of a door closing in a
like the feeling of a door closing in a
room you've been locked in for [music]
room you've been locked in for [music]
so long you'd stopped noticing it was a
so long you'd stopped noticing it was a
door. "What are you?" she whispered.
door. "What are you?" she whispered.
"What do you think I am?" it said. She
"What do you think I am?" it said. She
thought about Duke Aldrich, about her
thought about Duke Aldrich, about her
father's smile. About every arrangement
father's smile. About every arrangement
that had been made on her behalf since
that had been made on her behalf since
the moment she was born. [music] "I
the moment she was born. [music] "I
think," she said slowly. "That you're a
think," she said slowly. "That you're a
test." The frog was [music] quiet for a
test." The frog was [music] quiet for a
long time. "Everyone is a test," it said
long time. "Everyone is a test," it said
finally. "The question is what you're
finally. "The question is what you're
being tested for." [music] On the
being tested for." [music] On the
seventh night, she kissed it. Not
seventh night, she kissed it. Not
because she'd grown to love it, not
because she'd grown to love it, not
because the stories promised
because the stories promised
transformation. She kissed it because
transformation. She kissed it because
she was tired, bone tired, [music] soul
she was tired, bone tired, [music] soul
tired of being managed, of everyone in
tired of being managed, of everyone in
her life having an agenda except the
her life having an agenda except the
creature who had asked for nothing more
creature who had asked for nothing more
than to be treated like something real.
than to be treated like something real.
She kissed [music] it because it was the
She kissed [music] it because it was the
one choice in seven days that had been
one choice in seven days that had been
entirely uncomplicatedly hers. The
entirely uncomplicatedly hers. The
transformation was not the way she'd
transformation was not the way she'd
imagined it. She'd [music] imagined
imagined it. She'd [music] imagined
light, a sound like bells, the frog
light, a sound like bells, the frog
growing, reshaping, a young man emerging
growing, reshaping, a young man emerging
the way a sail fills with wind, sudden
the way a sail fills with wind, sudden
and glorious and inevitable. What
and glorious and inevitable. What
happened instead was quiet. The frog's
happened instead was quiet. The frog's
eyes changed first. They went from dark
eyes changed first. They went from dark
[music] to darker and then to something
[music] to darker and then to something
she could almost see the bottom of. The
she could almost see the bottom of. The
way the well looked in morning light,
way the well looked in morning light,
not bottomless, deep. Genuinely [music]
not bottomless, deep. Genuinely [music]
deep. And then she understood there was
deep. And then she understood there was
no prince. There had never been a
no prince. There had never been a
prince. The enchantment was not on the
prince. The enchantment was not on the
frog. [music] The enchantment had always
frog. [music] The enchantment had always
been on her. Here is what the frog knew
been on her. Here is what the frog knew
that she didn't. 19 years of a cage so
that she didn't. 19 years of a cage so
gilded, so perfectly constructed, so
gilded, so perfectly constructed, so
[music] thoroughly normalized that she
[music] thoroughly normalized that she
had never once thought to call it a
had never once thought to call it a
cage. 19 years of her choices being made
cage. 19 years of her choices being made
before she knew she had them. 19 years
before she knew she had them. 19 years
of her [music] own perspective, her own
of her [music] own perspective, her own
self, kept perpetually small by a
self, kept perpetually small by a
hundred daily acts [music] of well-meing
hundred daily acts [music] of well-meing
management. The bargain hadn't been
management. The bargain hadn't been
about the ball. The bargain was, "See
about the ball. The bargain was, "See
something as it actually is. Treat
something as it actually is. Treat
something genuinely powerless as though
something genuinely powerless as though
it [music] matters. Make one choice that
it [music] matters. Make one choice that
costs you something real," the frog
costs you something real," the frog
said. And it would be the last thing it
said. And it would be the last thing it
ever said. [music] Because after this
ever said. [music] Because after this
night, it was just a frog. Just an
night, it was just a frog. Just an
ordinary frog sitting in the reeds doing
ordinary frog sitting in the reeds doing
what frogs do. [music] You didn't need a
what frogs do. [music] You didn't need a
prince. You needed to remember that you
prince. You needed to remember that you
can decide. In the morning, Duke Aldrich
can decide. In the morning, Duke Aldrich
arrived to finalize the marriage
arrived to finalize the marriage
contract.
contract.
>> [music]
>> [music]
>> Isolda came downstairs in riding clothes
>> Isolda came downstairs in riding clothes
with a saddle bag over her shoulder. Her
with a saddle bag over her shoulder. Her
father stared. Where are you going? Isa.
father stared. Where are you going? Isa.
She thought about the seven nights,
She thought about the seven nights,
about the weight of a small and
about the weight of a small and
persistent watching her from the
persistent watching her from the
pillow's edge. About the question it
pillow's edge. About the question it
[music] had asked. What are you being
[music] had asked. What are you being
tested for? I don't know yet, she said.
tested for? I don't know yet, she said.
That's rather the point. She [music]
That's rather the point. She [music]
walked past the Duke without looking at
walked past the Duke without looking at
him. She walked out the front gate. She
him. She walked out the front gate. She
didn't take the golden ball. Somewhere
didn't take the golden ball. Somewhere
at [music] the edge of a forest beside a
at [music] the edge of a forest beside a
well so old it has no name, a frog sits
well so old it has no name, a frog sits
in the reeds and watches the water. It
in the reeds and watches the water. It
is waiting for the next person who
is waiting for the next person who
[music] drops something precious. It has
[music] drops something precious. It has
been waiting a very long time. It is
been waiting a very long time. It is
very patient. It always will be.
very patient. It always will be.
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